JBE

Can you volunteer in the town in which you live in?? Why not try that??

There's a few different places they can meet up. One is 63, the others are 38 and 81. Interesting choice of 66, though. The actual rule is they are supposed to wait for an escort. Possible the escort was from New Ro, and met them at 95 and the city line. Just a thought as I'm still on vacation.

I'm back to work in the morning, I will have the rundown to WP for the Purple K. If it was 59 Engine, they are the back up to 84 for the Purple K Rig. E-228 and 229 in Brooklyn have one as well, along with E-33, 326, and 163.

As stated earlier, any M/A is done by other departments in the county. It was probably a specific request for Purple K. The closest ones would be 84 and 326. Permission has to be granted by the Chief of Department for mutual aid to be provided.

Nice goin!!!

I'm going to try to hold my laughter back for this one. Spin makes some good points. All of which I would make if I wasn't living with the Charlie Foxtrot that is NYC PSAC. Kitchen and storage space!!?!?? HA!!! Advancement possibilities in a larger PSAC?? HA!!!! What works in smaller municipalities has not worked well here in NY. Since two of Spins cohorts in Elmont were my probies at one time, I'm sure he knows what the deal is in the city. I dread going to work every single day. Not only because of the logistical nightmare PSAC 1 is, with limited facilities, and poor planning, not to mention the inconveniences of redundant security systems. (Three ID swipes and a fingerprint just to put on my uniform). I know there's a large bullseye painted on the side of that building. It's not too bad with the noise levels now that EMD has moved in, I'm more concerned for when NYPD moves upstairs. I have resisted and resisted and yelled and screamed about this. Maybe when something happens, people will listen.

I probably spoke to you. I have occasionally asked if the dispatcher I'm speaking to knows of this site, and then drop my screen name.

Another jerk making the rest of you look bad. Former?? Probably got booted cause the powers that be realized he was an EDP.

If I remember right from talking to guys in 34 Engine, and riding in it, the ALF was a nice, roomy rig. However, it didn't handle as well as the Seagrave. It was too tall, as it had some problems backing into the older firehouses. Engine 15's house on Henry Street comes to mind. Something about whacking the deck gun on the door. After it was at 34, it went to 257 and then to GI. If I remember right, it wasn't a high pressure pumper and 34 had a new one coming after theirs was demolished at the Trade Center. The ALF was a demo that was donated afterwards. I've heard the same thing that M said about the Ferraras, from a guy who was assigned to 54 Engine. They were tight. First glance, it does look a bit like a Seagrave.(Kinda like the Concorde looked like an ALF Eagle) There was another one built that was used on Third Watch as Squad 55. I don't think the Sutphens were demo models, just "one Offs", same as the ALF/LTI's. Both Sutphens were 1979 or 80 models. I have a pic of 14 Truck with the Sutphen on the computer at work. I remember a news story on it and 119, and seeing it in action once along the FDR drive when I was a kid. The ALF/LTI's were 1984 models. Low profile Centruy Cabs with pumps. I know 14 got a lot of mileage on that rig, as did 163, going all over the place. I can also remember Chiefs asking for a 100 foot Tower Ladder for jobs, and us telling them there weren't anymore after 14's ALF was put out to pasture sometime in the mid 90's. I don't remember if 119 had the ALF before it was given to one of the other companies. Side note, 119 has had a history of getting the interesting rigs, from the Mack C/Magirus 144 foot ladder with the elevator on the side, to the Sutphen. E-329 also had either Vector, or Vision light bars(two pieces maybe three or four light pods on each. Kinda like the Chicago rigs in the 90's) on the cab on the Seagrave they had. I always wondered if it was R n D or just the members decking it out. Same for 290 and 283. PS the Spartan/.Aerialscope at 53 has a 1970's era boom that saw service at TL-107 back in the day. 53 had a 1999 or 2000 Seagrave that got swapped out with TL-45 and they got the Spartan from 105. The reasoning behind that was 53 is really slow, and since it's not a standard FDNY rig, less of a problem with wear and tear and having to worry about waiting on replacement parts. Whereas 105 is fairly busy. If you look at a photographic history of FDNY apparatus, you will see they tried a lot of things. Some worked like the Mack CF's, others didn't, like the Mack R's(Which I personally thought looked awesome).

EFD, while I understand your consternation at folks being laid off in Westchester, I don't know how feasible your idea is. Simply put, someone will come along and complain that they aren't home grown NYC residents, or some other load of garbage like that. It's already been spewed forth by people. As far as the job being handed to a person on a silver platter, I dunno if that's necessarily true. You can dumb down that written test all you want, but if they can't hack the CPAT, which is far easier than the old physical, those people have no business being on the job. Regardless of race or ethnicity.

Funny little coincidence, last year, I was working in the Bronx while Staten Island and Queens had a couple of big brush fires going. We get most of our brush jobs in the area of Orchard Beach and Ferry Point Park. BFU-8 was removed from service a number of years ago. I actually called 60 to see who was the closest MA to the Bronx in the event that something went down. I believe the closest was MA-32 in White Plains. I sure would have a lot of explaining to do if I asked for Mutual Aid.

They suffer the emotional fallout while you suffer the physical side. Nothing will be done until it's someone of privilege or power who is affected.

It's not going to be enough. The majority of politicians don't really give a damn about us, or our health problems. When someone dies from a WTC related illness, the powers that be will hoot and holler and pay whoever they can to try and prove it was a pre-existing illness, or condition. Or, that someones own actions lent itself to them dying. What about the people who live with not only the physical scars, but mental and emotional ones?? I had a small part in that day, but the nightmares and other emotional hits I took stayed with me for years. Luckily the nightmares have stopped. But what about the one guy who one day flips out?? And I mean really flips out. Violent, etc. Who's going to be to blame?? Is it the government who didn't step in to offer that person more counseling, or medication, than the city was willing to give?? Or, will people take the easy way and blame the aggressor?? After Sept. 11th, members of the FDNY, NYPD, and PAPD were like celebrities. Now, you got people on You Tube posting clips of fire companies going down a street with very little traffic at 8:30 on a Sunday Morning with lights and sirens. And they are complaining. There aren't many in positions of power who really care about us. Our friends, families, and the occasional grateful civilians do. Maybe if Heaven forbid, when the next one hits, and it's a relative of a politician who happens to be on the job that's affected, maybe then the wheels will start turning. This is what happens to someone after 13 years and numerous negatives hitting in a very short time, which makes that someone very angry and bitter as to what his job has turned into.

Very Impressive..

Just a question out of curiosity, since I'm really not familiar with the area, or the politics. Could it possibly be that after TL-78 cost nearly $1 million or just over $1 million, that the town government is going to be a little more observant of what the FD is spec'ing out, hence the controversy we have??

Just taken with the cell phone about an hour ago. The new Tower Ladder 46. BFR and I are going to shoot it with real cameras next week.

Date:5-12-10 Time:1018 Location: 502 East 14 Street bet. Ave A and Ave B Box 469 Frequency: 154.250 Units Operating: Engines: 5,28,33,16,55,14,15,24,21,1,211/7,8 E-9/SAT-1 Ladders: 11,3,9(FAST),7,18,20(Add'l FAST),1,12,6(Another FAST) Special Units: R-1, Sq-18, Command Tactical, Tac-1, Safety, Rescue Bn, Mask Service Chiefs Batt.6,4,2(Safety), 7(RUL), 1(Staging) Division 1, Car 6(Manhattan Borough Command, Chief Jim Esposito) Numerous other Staff Chiefs Weather Conditions: Cloudy, showers. Description Of Incident: Fire in a 5 store unit row of taxpayers, 1 Brk 75X50. 5 T/L's, 5 Multiversals, 1 exterior handline into Exposure 3 for exposure protection. 10-75@ 1021 All Hands, Add'l E n T at 1022, 2-2 @ 1027, 3-3 @ 1102. Dispatchers working: 236,253,258,277,729, and a couple of Probies. JBE has the tour Reporters/Writer: JBE

Nice shots..

I don't believe it does, however it still responds on any 10-75 west of Broadway and north of 231st Street.

The Maxi Water System evolved into the Satellite Water System in 1998. With Maxi-Water becoming Satellite 6. Sat-1/E-9, Sat-2/E-72, Sat-3/E-284, Sat-4/E-324, Sat-5/E-159, Sat-6/E-207. They respond on certain street, bridge, and special building boxes on the First Alarm(Bronx Terminal Market, Navy Yard, Manhattan Bridge), any foam operation, or where a Marine Company is operating at a land incident. Any All Hands in SI, and any multiple alarm in the city. If you look at where they are all quartered, they are within a short distance of a major highway, and can get to certain places quickly if needed. Prior to 1998, the same rules were in effect, with the exception of an additional Satellite, associated Engine, and E-207/Maxi responding on the 3rd, and E-207 being Water Resource. The officer of E-207 would look at maps of the water mains, and find the nearest large diameter main to hook up to. They would advise the dispatcher while responding "Maxi-Water hook up point will be...wherever". Example: Box 1477 in Manhattan(W. 125 and Lenox Avenue) Satellite 1 on the 2nd Alarm(South Side of 125) Satellite 2, and 207/Maxi on the 3rd. As for the Lime Green Engines, they were, 10,(Later given to E-4 and repainted) 41,42,45,46,(both repainted to red/white)58,65(ALF),73,85,94,236,277. 236 totalled theirs in a wreck in 1985 or 86 out on either Liberty, or 101 Avenue right over the Queens border. 263 got 85's after 85 was disbanded in 1986. 277's went to Corrections and was repainted blue, white and orange. That was in the early 90's I think.

Nice work, looks like you've been busy.

I took a ride over to the Navy Yard on Tuesday to maybe catch a glimpse of the new Marine 1. I think I lucked out. A few of the 11 deck guns. Since the Department doesn't actually own the boat yet, I wasn't allowed on board to take pictures. So, I ran over to get Marine 6 and the Governor Smith. I should have stuck around to get a close up of this. The not so old, the old, and the new. Enjoy..

Take a closer look at the stern, you'll see it. It's pretty much the same one as the Lawrence, although it has a bucket on the end.

It's in between the Manhattan and Williamsburgh Bridges. It's a pretty large complex. I actually saw what looked to be parts of an commercial airliner fuselage. Umm, when did I get the Excellence in Photography one?? Personally I think my pix are quite amateurish compared to a few others I know.

If the 23 got the new chiefs car, it's not doing too well. They were involved in an accident either Sunday or Monday.