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And one more thing. The topic is labeled wrong, it's not "Scarsdale Dunkin Donuts Hostage Situation" It should say "New Rochelle Dunkin Donuts Hostage Situation".

NRFD Engine Officer: Yes Mrs. Northender you do live in New Rochelle and No the Scarsdale Fire Department is not coming. May we now put out the fire in your house. Mrs. N: I called the Scarsdale Fire Department and they said their on the way. (as the fire in the house grows). I live in SCARSDALE and no one from New Rochelle is going to put my fire out. I LIVE IN SCARSDALE !!!!!!! Who called you anyway. NRFD Engine Officer: Who called us, the Scarsdale Fire Department called us, because your house is in New Rochelle, not Scarsdale. Finally Mrs. N allowed the NRFD to extinguish the fire. And SFD never showed up. Why should they, the fire was in New Rochelle. This actually happened many years ago it the North end of New Rochelle that has a Scarsdale P.O.

New Rochelle P.D. only has 1 car in sector 9 and the next closest, sector 8, has Donut World and a Starbucks. Why would sector 8 go all the way to the end of sector 9 for coffee, maybe for the donuts when Donut World is closed. Anyway, sector 9 has a large area to cover and most of sector 9's time is spent running on burglar alarms with sector 8 on the back up. There is more of a chance that a Scarsdale RMP would be there then NRPD, and not sure if Dunkin Donuts is sophisticated enough for SPD's tastes.

I can't agree more. When I saw a "big foot" type truck pull into a handicap parking space and a young male jumps, yes jumps, to the ground to run into a store gets me mad. When I said to him he doesn't look handicapped, he replied he wasn't, the placard was for his grandmother. I have a hard time trying to figure how granny can get into this truck, let alone get out of it. Too many people think that the handicap placard or license plate give anyone operating that vehicle the right to park in a handicap space. It doesn't, it gives the handicapped person riding or operating that vehicle the right to that space. And to keep this comment in line with the topic, when I see a chief's car, fire rig or EMS vehicle in a handicapped space so they can run into Starbucks, I wish I could dock the operator and/or the crew a vacation day.

This Dunkin Donuts is in the city of New Rochelle on Weaver St just south of the Heathcote by-pass. Initial report of 2 men with hand guns in the store.

The Pierce 105' rear mount that is now the Burtonville Vol. F.D. spare ladder is the NRFD ladder that failed. The Chief of BVFD at the time the ladder was purchased was advised of the history of the ladder prior to the sale. Obviously there was a new 105' ladder installed on the rig.

When you know where to look the job is easy.

The old NRFD ladder 13 was repaired and sold to Burtonville Vol. F.D. in Maryland. http://www.burtonsvillevfd.com/apparatus/RT15.jpg Reserve Truck 15 (RT-15) placed in service for the first time on 12/22/03 while our regular Truck is placed out of service for about two weeks for maintenance. Reserve Truck 15 was purchased several months ago by the BVFD to be used exclusively as a back up for our ladder truck. The vehicle is a 1988 Pierce rear mount with a 105' aerial ladder with a 500 lb. tip load. The truck previously served in the city of New Rochelle, New York. From the BVFD web site.

It was a letter to the editor.

What no Twinkies ???

Structure fire at New Rochelle High School. Departments into the city on mutual aid: Eastchester E-31 Larchmont TL-7 Greenvile E-151 & L-4 Scarsdale TL-29 White Plains E-71 & L-34 2nd Alarm call back of NRFD personnel and manned E-19, L-14, RES-4 and MSU-3. Plus guilds as available for the out of town companies. covering companies responded on numerous weather related calls.

Date:Aug 15, 2008 Time:1806 Hrs. Location: New Rochelle High School 265 clove rd Frequency: 460.4625 Units Operating: 2301, 2302, 2303, Engines 23, 24, 25, 21, 22 Ladders 12, 13 TL-11 Bat 15, 30A2, 30A3,NRPD Description Of Incident: Fire in the steeple ....fire showing Writer:LTNRFD 1814 hrs. Second alarm 1825 hrs. Eastchester E-31 and Larchmont TL-7 to NRPD HQ 475 North Ave. Smoke from electric panel. 1845 hrs. E-31 and TL-7 to Sta-3 E-151 and L-4, TL-29 in the city E-71 & L-34 from White Plains in the city. 1945 hrs. White Plains units released. 1954 hrs. Fire is under control. Per 2302 New Rochelle E-19, Lad-14 and Res-4 in service with call back personnel at 1845 hrs. 1900 hrs. Mutual Aid companies responding to numerous call with in the city of New Rochelle.

And that brings up the phrase 'Selective enforcement'.

I guess all the IAFF members that volunteer for the County's Arson Task Force and C & O Team will have to quit. Along with the IAFF members that teach classes at the Fire Training Center and at local fire departments will have to stop. Can't have an IAFF member teaching volunteers. This could 'erode the conditions of work of any affiliate' Also, all of the IAFF members that work for commercial, private or municipal EMS services as EMT's or Paramedics will have to give up their "B" jobs. Any IAFF member that is a volunteer anywhere within the metro N.Y. area will have to quit. Any volunteer department at any time can be requested to any part of the state or to another state. Even to another country as NRFD and others were called to help out in Canada after the major ice storm about 10-12 years ago. In a fantasy world this might be accomplished, in the real world I can't se it happening. The one thing I do see as missing is the IAFF members that work there "B" jobs where there are other trade unions. If you claim to be union and proud of it, you have to respect ALL unions. Not just the ones that suit the members.

I can't understand why the Village of Larchmont was quick to fill the police chiefs' position. Chief Rubeo retired as of yesterday and the Village has already announced the new Chief. Just 3 weeks ago an article in the Larchmont Gazette told of the efforts by the Village of Larchmont and the Town of Mamaroneck to study the possibility of merging more services. The Village of Larchmont has been trying to take the lead in this effort to improve services, while lowering costs to the tax payer. The studies should be completed in a few months. Now there are 2 chiefs' positions to deal with. I don't understand why the rush. Can someone explain it. I am always hearing about how consolidation is the way to go and here a municipality throws a bump into the possible merger. Good luck to Chief Poleway. Here is the link to the article. VOL & TOM Study Police, Fire & DPW With Eye to Sharing Combining departments is one possibility. http://www.larchmontgazette.com/2008/artic...edservices.html

I don't think that the comments here on this thread have been negative about the response, to Nyack Hospital, of Dept. 10's 8 companies. I would think most people here think a full department response by an all volunteer department would insure an adequate response to a high hazard building. What is being questioned is, as stated by others in this thread, is the full department response to minor alarms, ie: brush fires. Maybe someone can explain the risk vs benefit of having up to 8 fire companies respond from different directions to a brush fire. It was mentioned here earlier that some departments send ladder companies along with the engine companies. That is done by the career departments and that is solely to augment the engine companies manpower.

Get a grip. Under your theory we should have Stat Flight stand by for ALL people down calls. You never know, the patient may have fallen out of the sky. I do agree that a hospital should get a greater response, but a brush fire. The risk reward is tipped the wrong way. Sending the appropriate equipment is why you train people to be dispatchers. That is the main reason emergency service departments are dispatched by agencies like 60-control. Yes they can make mistakes, but 99.999% of the time they get a good handle on the situation real fast and dispatch the appropriate response. How many times do they upgrade the response just on the tone of the callers voice or things they hear in the background of the call.

On a positive note. The red tee shirt was a very good choice on the part of the instructor. It really distinguished who the instructor is and who the students are.

We have talked about the side doors so far. Remember the hight of the vehicle you are operating. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=38211899

I was working at Nyack Hospital back in the 90's and saw the Upper Nyack ladder race down Midland Ave to a leaf fire in the back of a truck on the middle school football field. They squeezed out Jackson Hose to the gate onto the field. They raced over to the fire and engaged their pump to get water on the leaves before Jackson Hose could. This ladder at the time was a tiller, and I thought I was going to witness it jack knifing as it attempted to negotiate the opening in the gate. It had just started to rain and the road was slick. This ladder only carried a small amount of water, maybe 75-90 gals, and Jackson Hose had to finish the job that Upper Nyack started.

A few years back, Larchmont was working at an EMS call at Palmer Ave and Chatsworth Ave. A person had a seizure in a car at the intersection, and LFD had to make entry into the car due to the doors being locked and the person was unresponsive. The engine was parallel to the scene with traffic moving between the car and the engine. Because they had to use the slim jim, the drivers side rear upper doors of the engine were open. The doors were up, parallel to the street, along comes an oil delivery truck. The driver was more concerned of the EMS ops going on in the middle of the road, so he hugged the right side and the open doors on the engine were hit by the tank part of the oil truck. 2 doors now lay in the street. They were lucky it was an oil delivery truck and not a school bus that hit the open doors.

Years ago during the NYC EMS days a 'bus' was an ambulance because, as stated earlier, they were made by Grumman Corp. When NYC EMS referred to a transit bus they would call it a 'whale'. Mainly because of the size.

I believe it was 1973 when NRFD had it's last parade. The 50th anniversary of the UFFA. Sponsored by Shaffer beer. Nice parade, good time had by all. Both career and volunteer alike. In 1998, for the 75th, it was combined with the annual Thanksgiving Parade.

This might need to be it's own topic. In my many years of working commercial services, I too had to transport many a prisoner from local and state facilities. Once while transporting a prisoner from Sing Sing to W.C.M.C non-emergency for tests and a possible procedure, we had a car in front and 2 vans behind the ambulance. Usually there was only 1 van following. The CO in the ambulance with the prisoner stated that the patient was one of the real bad boys at Sing Sing and they were expecting his buddies on the outside to help him escape. Info that my partner and I really didn't ever want to hear on a prisoner transfer. My question to this is. Should EMS be responsible for these types of transfers or should the State need to provide ambulance transport with CO's as EMT's ? Should EMS be put in these situations where there is no formal training on what to do and not do should the transfer go south?

"The midnight voice" of KEF-934.