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Goose made a statement "that in the event of a disaster people will UNNECESSARILY die, when i say unnecessarily i'm inferring that people will die due to the inability of this county to field the resources and personal necessary to deal with said disaster." This county had far less resources 35 years ago, long before you or Goose were born. Even back then there was never a problem getting the resources needed to handle a disaster. In 2010 there are 10x's the available resources available. Can we treat the patients better today....YES. Can we handle disasters easier....YES. I just can't accept someone in the EMS field making a blanket statement as Goose did. FYI...I was 1st ambulance on the scene to a MCI on I-95 years back. The call was in NYC and I was working in Westchester. When it was determined that 4 additional ambulances were neededd for 9 patients (5 critical) a call was placed to NYC EMS for the buses. Only 1 BLS bus was available in the entire Bronx. And they asked if we could handle the MCI. The BLS was requested and 3 additional ambulances from Westchester responded. My point here is that even the great NYC EMS could not "field the resources" for a small scale disaster. BTW, no one died because NYC could not get the resources to a disaster. When you talk about long delays waiting for an ambulance to respond, please give the specific area in question. There are many areas in Westchester that do not have the problems that you and Goose speak of.

Yes I do. A career (commercial) EMS system in an urban setting. If there was a system in place that allowed the career(commercial) and the volunteers to work together, maybe the system wouldn't have gotten overloaded. Lucky there is a system in place today.

Goose, 8 days ago I asked you to respond to this statement. Not seeing any response by you, maybe you missed my question. So I'll ask it again. "Can you in ALL your years in the EMS field tell us how many people died because of inadequate EMS response to any size disaster in Westchester County????? "

Now in english please !!!!

That looks like the same location that E-23 & L-13 responded to a car fire during a snow storm about 6-7 years ago.

On a hot summer day at station 1 in New Rochelle, a van pulled up in front. 2 men got out and said that they had just filled the gas tank and were driving around awhile when the gas tank started to make a hissing sound and they smelled gas. So they drove for about 5 minutes to the fire station. The part of the story they left out was that the gas tank was a propane tank. The van was filling up with propane while they drove around. Lucky they parked under a tree and the shade was enough to cool the van before we approached. Opened the van and remove the tank and told them to come back at night to get the tank. The guy in the passenger seat then stated that after they got the propane tank filled, they were looking for a place to buy cigarettes !!!!!

And everyone is forgetting the executive chefs that cook our meals and the Molly Maid cleaning crew that keeps the fire stations sparkling clean !!!!

Barry how would you need to contact 6 different dispatchers to get the 10 departments in the study ?????? Eastchester, Greenville, New Rochelle, Pelham, Pelham Manor are now primarily dispatched by 60-Control. 60 has the ability to dispatch Fairview, Hartsdale, Larchmont and Scardsale and they due primary dispatch now for these departments when they receive cell phone 911 calls and mutual aid/automatic mutual aid calls. That leaves Mt. Vernon, so in theory IF ALL 10 departments needed to be dispatched to the same incident, 1 set of tones (which could take a little time to tx.) and 1 phone call and 10 departments would be dispatched. Now having specific rigs assigned to the 10 department response is another story.

That's an old one !!!!! Oh sorry chief......just saw you're in the 60 and wiser group......

One of the reasons is way back before many of you were born, there was full time paid/career EMS in Westchester County. It was a hospital based system. I believe that many hospitals in lower Westchester, with emergency rooms ran ambulances. They could not provide a quick response to their primary response areas and cost too much to operate. There would be 45-60 minute responses on average. This prompted many areas to form the own EMS. Many police department ran stretcher cars or had ambulances available. If the patient could not go by RMP or stretcher car the ambulanca was sent. This ment calling in a car and taking an officer off the road to drive the ambulance. Depending on the manpower, the patient may have had someone ride with them in the back. Many times the patient was alone in the back of the ambulance. Then there were the VACs that started up. A ten minute response was up to 6 times faster than was the norm.

Can you in ALL your years in the EMS field tell us how many people died because of inadequate EMS response to any size disaster in Westchester County?????

From the Journal News......... "Dabbs pulled out a .380-caliber handgun and pointed it at officers, who then Tasered the suspect, police said. Dabbs and Brown then ran into B & D Deli. Brown fled out of the back of the eatery as Dabbs was taken into custody, police said. Brown took the weapon and threw it in the back of the deli, police said." By this reported info, it seems the taser really didn't do the job. The suspect was able to get up and flee. I thought the taser was to immolbilize the suspect enough for the police to cuff/restrain. If he was able to get away, he sure could have fired his gun at the police. Maybe he could have fired while he was being tasered. Is this normal ???? Can the suspect get away while being tasered ?????

"God forbid there is a moderately sized disaster, people will unnecessarily die." So in your above statement you are refering to people will die due to the diaster and not because of the EMS resources available. Am I correct?????

Just a little curious about your statement. What do you consider a "moderate sized disaster"?

This was a phone call from the house reporting a fire. If they can't find the location, bang on a neighbors door and ask for a verification of the address. I remember an article written many years ago by a D.C. from Hartsdale. The topic was what do you do for automatic alarms. How far do you go in gaining access??? The article was written after they responded to an automatic alarm that turned out to be a smoldering plant in the house. If the smoldering plant was not found when it was, there may have been a larger fire later. The article went on to say that every reasonable attemp must be made to determine the nature of the automatic alarm. Walk around the building, get a key holder to the scene, check second floor windows etc. With that being said about an automatic alarm, get off the rig !!!!! When there is a live phone call, Look, look and look again. Have a neighbor verify the location, have the dispatcher try to call back the caller, what ever it takes. Chief Cambell talked about this very topic in the probie school. He went as far as to say that if you respond to an EMS call and find only 1 person in the house/apt, check to see if there might be someone else there that's in need of assistance. Never take it for granted that the caller is the only person in need of assistance.

Barry's good.....but SUPER POWERS !!!!!!!

Ahhhh..... the good ol' days !!!!

A classic !!!!! They don't make them like they use to !!!!

Hey Barry, York Twp. PA's crane is bigger than yours!!!!!!!!

With the budget situation in New Rochelle, Is there any manpower to staff it ???? Or is TL-11 crew manning it on a 'as needed basis' ????

Ahhh the good old days of long coats and the hip boots.........

Firefighter Appears On 'Millionaire' NEW ROCHELLE: New Rochelle firefighter and Mahopac resident Carl Bartucca will be on the game show "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" on Friday and Monday. Bartucca is a 1979 New Rochelle High School graduate and a lieutenant in the city's Fire Department. "Millionaire" airs on WABC at 12:30 p.m.

They question was "If your birthday is March 15, what is your half birthday???". St. Patricks is March 17. The correct answer was September 15. (October15 ???? must be that fuzzy math!!!!!)

Up to about $15,000...Can't remember the exact amount. Ran out of time...to be continued on Monday. He had trouble with the question, "If your birthday is March 15, what would you half birthday be"????? He had to ask the audience. Did well on the other ones.

I'm glad I kept my badge. I thought it might come in handy !!!!!!