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x129, you are right about the basement. The buildings are owned by Vassar College and they are determining if it is better to repair or start over. It was originally built in 1902 so there are many things that would need to be addressed (asbestos, wiring, etc). They also own the vacant lot next door. The box is based on the Urban Search and Rescue markers and is used for any building in the town that has been condemned This does not have to be a result of fire conditions.

I think its the new helmet..

You may be able to work with this Module I Awareness 11 22 05.ppt

Conditions on arrival "A" side. This is where the occupants evacuated to. Courtesy Arlington Professional Firefighters IAFF Local 2393

Yes he is but he may be retiring this year.

What are your thoughts. I have read a few of these over the past couple years. http://www.khou.com/news/local/Firefighters-put-out-fire-miss-body-inside-home--184866921.html

I have had similar non-fire experiences but not to your extent. Imagining it under fire conditions is frightful.

x129k....It was time for new gear..... I agree that under most circumstances a missed victim is not understandable. It did not go as much to say it was a Collyers Mansion situation but under those circumstances I could see there being a problem. There was evidence of the possability of person(s) being in the structure so a more thorough 2nd search needs to be done. Maintain possession of the structure and dig. There have been several reported cases where the victims were trapped under the "stuff" in these situations without having a fire. http://www.google.com/search?q=Collyers+Mansion&hl=en&sa=X&tbo=u&rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS357US359&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=gt_eUIDYC6Ls0QGm8YCABQ&ved=0CDoQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=826

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Yes there is a fire department in a fire district. Taken right from town law: "11-a. The members of the fire department of the fire district shall meet at a time and place designated by the board of fire commissioners on the Thursday following the first Tuesday in April of each year and nominate persons for the offices of chief and such assistant chiefs as may be provided for in the rules and regulations...." The Fire Department is all members from the Chief down. Commissioners are not members of the Fire Department but are in charge of the Fire District. A town can have a contract for fire protection called a Fire Protection District.

Good Job Everyone!!

It is with deep regret to report the passing of Chief Robert Mauro of the Fairview Fire Department. Additional information to follow. Chief Mauro just retired in January (http://www.fairviewfire.org/)

Funeral Home Visitation: Tuesday March 15th, 2011 2pm - 4pm & 7pm - 9pm Mc Elroy-Flynn Funeral Home 72 East Main Street Elmsford, NY 10523 (914) 592-6300 http://www.cassidyflynnfuneralhome.com/directions.htm#Mc Elroy-Flynn Funeral Service: Wednesday March 16th, 2011 10:00am Grace Church of White Plains 33 Church Street, Corner of Main & Church St White Plains, NY 10606 914 949-2874 http://www.gracewhiteplains.org/information.htm Interment to Follow at: Ferncliff Cemetary 280-284 Secor Rd.. Hartsdale, NY 10530 Phone: (914) 693-4700 http://www.ferncliffcemetery.com/directions_2.htm

GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW § 209-i. Emergency service by volunteer firemen. 1. Whenever a volunteer fireman is within this state, but outside the area regularly served by the fire company or fire department of which he is a member and has knowledge of a fire or other emergency at or near the place where he is for the time being, such volunteer fireman may report to the officer in command of the paid or volunteer fire company or paid or volunteer fire department, or in command of one of the paid or volunteer fire companies or one of the paid or volunteer fire departments, engaged in the handling of any such fire or other emergency and, on an individual basis, offer his services to assist such fire company or fire department. After his services are so accepted, the volunteer fireman shall then be entitled to all powers, rights, privileges and immunities granted by law to volunteer firemen during the time such services are rendered, in the same manner and to the same extent as if he were a volunteer member of the fire company or fire department which he is assisting, including benefits under the volunteer firemen's benefit law. Any such commanding officer shall have power, in his discretion, to so accept the services of a volunteer fireman unless the legislative body of the city or the village, the board of fire commissioners or other governing board of the fire district, or the town board of the town in relation to (a) the fire companies serving territory outside villages and fire districts or ( a town fire department, as the case may be, by resolution heretofore or hereafter adopted, has forbidden the acceptance of any such services pursuant to this section. Any such resolution shall continue in effect until amended or repealed by the adoption of a subsequent resolution. The officer in charge of any fire company or fire department shall be notified promptly of the adoption of any such resolution and of any amendment or repeal thereof. 1-a. A volunteer firefighter who, because of his residence or usual occupation, is regularly in the area served by a volunteer fire company or department of which he is not a member may nevertheless volunteer his services on an on-going basis to the officer in command thereof to assist such fire company or fire department for the purpose of assisting such company or department's general or emergency ambulance services, or for the purpose of assisting such fire company or fire department at a fire or other emergency scene or for the purpose of training with such fire company or fire department. After his services are so accepted, the volunteer firefighter shall then be entitled to all powers, rights, privileges and immunities granted by law to volunteer firefighters during the time such services are rendered, in the same manner and to the same extent as if he were a volunteer member of the fire company or fire department which he is assisting, including benefits under the volunteer firefighters' benefit law. Any such commanding officer when authorized by the legislative body of the city or the village, the board of fire commissioners or other governing board of the fire district, or the town board of the town in relation to (a) the fire companies serving territory outside villages and fire districts or ( a town fire department, as the case may be, shall have power, in his discretion, to so accept the services of a volunteer firefighter. 2. The municipal corporation or fire district which would be liable for the negligence of any volunteer members of the fire company or fire department which has accepted the services of the volunteer fireman pursuant to this section shall be liable for the negligence of such volunteer fireman while acting, after such acceptance and during the time such services were rendered, in the discharge of his duties as a volunteer fireman in the same manner and to the same extent as if he were a volunteer member of the fire company or fire department which he assisted. If the fire company or fire department which has so accepted the services of a volunteer fireman pursuant to this section is a paid fire company or paid fire department, such paid fire company or paid fire department shall, for the purposes of this subdivision and section two hundred five-b of this chapter, be deemed to be a "duly organized volunteer fire company" within the meaning of such section two hundred five-b. 3. As used in this section, the term "volunteer fireman" means a "volunteer fireman" as such term is defined in section three of the volunteer firemen's benefit law; the term "area regularly served" means the home area of the volunteer fireman as described in subdivisions one, two, three, four or five of section thirty of the volunteer firemen's benefit law and, in addition, any other area served pursuant to a contract for fire protection and the terms "fire company" and "fire department" shall include emergency rescue and first aid squads or other squads or units of a fire company or fire department.

It looks like funding has been restored but from what I am made aware of, "I have not seen the paperwork yet, but I believe the funding was 100%." from a reliable source.

Scott, Contact DC Ward of Lagrange. He knows the details.

But the law does not specify full time. It only says employs.

Here is how it was explained. You would have to pay minimum wage, thus you bewcm an emplyee. GML 209-w also states"and every person who is appointed on a temporary basis or for a probationary term or on other than a permanent basis as a fire fighter of any county, city, town, village or fire district shall forfeit his position as such unless he previously has satisfactorily completed, or within the time prescribed by regulations promulgated by the governor pursuant to section one hundred fifty-nine-d of the executive law, satisfactorily completes, a fire basic training program for temporary or probationary fire fighters and is awarded a certificate by the state fire administrator attesting thereto." which covers all but permenant appointed FF's. thus this covers the 229 and CPAT as per the R@R of NYS. Seems somewhat clear.

We have Fire Police only members.

When we inquired about it several years ago. NY has paid and volunteer status. A paid on call would have to get minimum wage and do 229hours /CPAT entry training and 100 hours yearly training. This would include part time people as well.

What does Class A and Class B refer to??

If my memory serves me correct, The VAC separated from the FD to do just that. Bill.

Just remember Lairdsville!!!! A chief was convicted because of failure to follow NFPA (1403). The standards are starting to be used in court.

This includes boots, helmets, gloves and hoods

Still in this day and age?????????? http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/minneapolis-pub-fire-kills-5/19425056