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Here is a bit about the new ladder in Wappingers
Body Model:100' Platform
Sidestacker Body Material:Aluminum
Cab Make/Model:E-One / Cyclone II
Engine Brand/Model/Horsepower:Cummins / ISX-500 / 500HP
Transmission Brand/Model:Allison / EVS4000
Water Pump Brand/Model:Hale / QMAX200-23
Pump Capacity:2,000 GPM
Water Tank Capacity:300 Gallons
Aerial Model (if applicable):100' Platform / Sidestacker
Generator Make/Capacity:Onan / 6 KW

Here is a bit about the new ladder in Wappingers
Body Model:100' Platform
Sidestacker Body Material:Aluminum
Cab Make/Model:E-One / Cyclone II
Engine Brand/Model/Horsepower:Cummins / ISX-500 / 500HP
Transmission Brand/Model:Allison / EVS4000
Water Pump Brand/Model:Hale / QMAX200-23
Pump Capacity:2,000 GPM
Water Tank Capacity:300 Gallons
Aerial Model (if applicable):100' Platform / Sidestacker
Generator Make/Capacity:Onan / 6 KW

Here is a bit about the new ladder in Wappingers
Body Model:100' Platform
Sidestacker Body Material:Aluminum
Cab Make/Model:E-One / Cyclone II
Engine Brand/Model/Horsepower:Cummins / ISX-500 / 500HP
Transmission Brand/Model:Allison / EVS4000
Water Pump Brand/Model:Hale / QMAX200-23
Pump Capacity:2,000 GPM
Water Tank Capacity:300 Gallons
Aerial Model (if applicable):100' Platform / Sidestacker
Generator Make/Capacity:Onan / 6 KW

Here is a bit about the new ladder in Wappingers
Body Model:100' Platform
Sidestacker Body Material:Aluminum
Cab Make/Model:E-One / Cyclone II
Engine Brand/Model/Horsepower:Cummins / ISX-500 / 500HP
Transmission Brand/Model:Allison / EVS4000
Water Pump Brand/Model:Hale / QMAX200-23
Pump Capacity:2,000 GPM
Water Tank Capacity:300 Gallons
Aerial Model (if applicable):100' Platform / Sidestacker
Generator Make/Capacity:Onan / 6 KW

Here is a bit about the new ladder in Wappingers
Body Model:100' Platform
Sidestacker Body Material:Aluminum
Cab Make/Model:E-One / Cyclone II
Engine Brand/Model/Horsepower:Cummins / ISX-500 / 500HP
Transmission Brand/Model:Allison / EVS4000
Water Pump Brand/Model:Hale / QMAX200-23
Pump Capacity:2,000 GPM
Water Tank Capacity:300 Gallons
Aerial Model (if applicable):100' Platform / Sidestacker
Generator Make/Capacity:Onan / 6 KW

Join the Community Baptist Church, 226 All Angels Rd Wappingers Falls; Sunday November 4th for our annual Firefighter's Sunday Service and Luncheon

As stated before, Wappinger's did have a ladder before the rest. More so you need to remember, that ladder builds are a bit different. It has to do with where the ladder is mounted, front or rear. The neighboring FD's have mid-mounted ladders. Because of the lay-out of the village, with the narrow streets, homes built on hills, etc. A rear mounted ladder is more important.

Ok let's look at this how the legal system will look at it .... the memo from the NYS DOH mentions while working in a EMS system. So we need to define EMS System first. And that will be: "a network of services coordinated to provide aid and medical assistance from primary response to definitive care, involving personnel trained in the rescue, stabilization, transportation, and advanced treatment of traumatic or medical emergencies. Linked by a communication system that operates on both a local and a regional level, EMS is a tiered system of care, which is usually initiated by citizen action in the form of a telephone call to an emergency number. Subsequent stages include the emergency medical dispatch, first medical responder, ambulance personnel, medium and heavy rescue equipment, and paramedic units, if necessary." Notice the it says trained in rescue.
Next they will look at Standards. Standards are enforcable in court. Such as AHA CPR Standard. We will look at the grandaddy of standards NFPA. Let's look at NFPA 1001: Standard for Fire Fighter Professional Qualifications. Before we get that some are volunteers, the word professional in this case don't mean paid.
1.1 Scope.
This standard identifies the minimum job performance requirements (JPRs) for career and
volunteer fire fighters whose duties are primarily structural in nature.
1.2 PurposeThe purpose of this standard shall be to ensure that persons meeting the requirements of this
standard who are engaged in fire fighting are qualified. It shall not be the intent of the standard
to restrict any jurisdiction from exceeding these requirements.
4.3*
Emergency Medical Care.
Minimum emergency medical care performance capabilities for entry-level personnel shall be
developed and validated by the AHJ to include infection control, CPR, bleeding control, and
shock management
Next they will look into your fire dept. Go pull out your by-laws or charter and I am sure it will state something very close in protecting life.
Now for an example for you. You get toned out to an auto accident with person ejected. You FD is there before the ambulance, you being a firefighter/emt where are you going to go 1st?
Hope this now helps

It is really interesting that OFPC labeled this as a best practice. A best practice is legally viewed lower then a recommendation. That means OSHA/PESH can not use this under the General Duty Clause, and could make it hard to be used by unions and others to say that NY is requiring this, because in reality they are not.

Let me break this down .....
PESH/OSHA: all they care about is safety.... they could care less how you roll a hose or do forcible entry .... they do care about content when it comes to the main safety requirements (use of SCBA, bloodborne pathogens, that fun stuff) ... They did however put the requirement about how long the training should be.
The content ... how many hours for fire house safety, equipment safety, etc, .... that fun stuff was ........ NY State Fire Chiefs Assoc.
Basic Qualifications for firefighters.... that is NFPA but remember PESH/OSHA uses Standards under the General Duty Clause
Now all that said and done, my feelings and just my feelings, is all that above is just minimum. You are kidding yourself thinking that's all you want to do and to make your program just meet that. You want to do better ... you want to provide all the training and all the tools for your firefighters to be able to do their best ... in the safest way possible. You goal shouldn't be " oooooo let's meet what NFPA or OSHA says." Your goal is to be ... what I need to do to help my firefighters do what they need to do .... and to get them back home safetly to their family, the same way they left.
For those who don't know, besides all the years I have firefighting, I am the North Americian Safety Professional for a very large international company. To be honest, I know firefighting is a very dangerous job and sometimes our pride and tradition gets in the way. Accidents, as well as deaths, are preventable. All the firefighters that have lost their lives are heros, just like all of us that are still alive, each in our own way, are too. Last year the number of firefighter deaths are down. But, honestly can you see me going back to my company with stats like that.
I can see it now: "Well I would like to report we had a very good year last year, we lost only 84. Out of that 90% wasn't on the fire scene. A good precentage of those were from returing or responding to a call. And, many of those are from us not seeing the person and backing over them or driving too fast and not wearing seat belts."
After I gave a report something to that effect, I will be out the next morning looking on indeed.com for a new job.
Think about the deaths of our brother and sisters in this service, wouldn't you do anything to just have another minute with them. Now look at all the rest of your firefighters around, would you want to be the one to tell their family that they weren't coming home any more?
We need to stop .. career needs to do this, volunteer needs to do that .... OSHA says this NFPA says that . We need to say skip all that, what we need to do; is the best we can do and push for more. There is nothing more! I want you to do with your life is to sit back, and to for you enjoy your great grandkids, and all of us want you, as well as the rest of us to do the same.
Ok that was my sermon for today!

Let me break this down .....
PESH/OSHA: all they care about is safety.... they could care less how you roll a hose or do forcible entry .... they do care about content when it comes to the main safety requirements (use of SCBA, bloodborne pathogens, that fun stuff) ... They did however put the requirement about how long the training should be.
The content ... how many hours for fire house safety, equipment safety, etc, .... that fun stuff was ........ NY State Fire Chiefs Assoc.
Basic Qualifications for firefighters.... that is NFPA but remember PESH/OSHA uses Standards under the General Duty Clause
Now all that said and done, my feelings and just my feelings, is all that above is just minimum. You are kidding yourself thinking that's all you want to do and to make your program just meet that. You want to do better ... you want to provide all the training and all the tools for your firefighters to be able to do their best ... in the safest way possible. You goal shouldn't be " oooooo let's meet what NFPA or OSHA says." Your goal is to be ... what I need to do to help my firefighters do what they need to do .... and to get them back home safetly to their family, the same way they left.
For those who don't know, besides all the years I have firefighting, I am the North Americian Safety Professional for a very large international company. To be honest, I know firefighting is a very dangerous job and sometimes our pride and tradition gets in the way. Accidents, as well as deaths, are preventable. All the firefighters that have lost their lives are heros, just like all of us that are still alive, each in our own way, are too. Last year the number of firefighter deaths are down. But, honestly can you see me going back to my company with stats like that.
I can see it now: "Well I would like to report we had a very good year last year, we lost only 84. Out of that 90% wasn't on the fire scene. A good precentage of those were from returing or responding to a call. And, many of those are from us not seeing the person and backing over them or driving too fast and not wearing seat belts."
After I gave a report something to that effect, I will be out the next morning looking on indeed.com for a new job.
Think about the deaths of our brother and sisters in this service, wouldn't you do anything to just have another minute with them. Now look at all the rest of your firefighters around, would you want to be the one to tell their family that they weren't coming home any more?
We need to stop .. career needs to do this, volunteer needs to do that .... OSHA says this NFPA says that . We need to say skip all that, what we need to do; is the best we can do and push for more. There is nothing more! I want you to do with your life is to sit back, and to for you enjoy your great grandkids, and all of us want you, as well as the rest of us to do the same.
Ok that was my sermon for today!

Being from that Era .... Don't laugh my EF course was sign by Nelson Rockerfeller
Ok Barry .... it was just the EF course .. Initial Fire Attack wasn't started to mid 70's before then it was single company operations

Few things more .... Haz-mat is at the operation level. Also you need bloodborne pathogens and T.B. Training.
Nothing in the rules said this can not be done in your annual 8 Hour training.
On the same note: your 8 hour training can be done during the course of the year, just have to remember if you are doing it that way you need to do really good paperwork.

Just a few quick things to help here
1) Yes because Volunteers get VFBL (because it is under the workers comp law), the Dept of Labor sees them as employees
2) Jr firefighters and Explorers are two very different groups. Jr firefighters are members of fire companies ages 16-18. They are covered under VFBL and so the are also covered under the Labor Laws. Explorers (Venturing) are non-members of fire compaines who are under the guidelines of the Boy Scouts, are from the age of 14 to 21 and are sponsered by a fire company. They are not covered under VFBL or NY State Labor Laws. Both groups are very different in what they can and canot do because of this difference.
3) OFPC allows Jr firefighters to take FF1 and other courses, but they do not allow explorers to take part in classes.