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If you do get some pictures, send em over to me and I can put em up on the site. Or give them to seth and he can put them up here. I say we should go on a group trip there!!

They shouldn't be allowed to be full firefighters if they are under 18 years old, period. Any department that still allows members to be full fledged firefighters under the age of 18 is archaeic. Letting teenagers, to an incident with such potential for danger and injury, is asking for trouble. THIS IS NOT 1962 anymore!!!! Firefighting is a PROFESSION, not a hobby or social club!!! Teenagers, IMO, are not developed enough yet to be able to be a professional firefighters, nor should they be placing themselves in that danger at that point in their life. I beleive absolutely in junior corps, but allowing them on a major interstate and having them stand around, doing nothing, at the foot of the scene, not wearing anything reflective, then what is the purpose of them being there in the first place??? Flare gophers I can only assume. That's total BS! That's like saying you've got someone hemmoraging, but you can't do anything because you didnt bring your gloves or first aid kit....but at least you're there.(Note Sarcasm) Go to a scene, bring the approriate equipment. If the truck has ANY chance to go on a highway, than it should have the minimum, at least, amount of equipment to PROTECT the crew. PLUS blocking a scene with a mini attack, when you have an more visible scothlite equipped engine AND very well lit HELP truck pulled to the side to the direct right of the MVA, is retarded. Period. Once again, THIS IS NOT 1962 anymore!!!! Highways are sometimes just as dangerous as going into a fire, and often are responded to more often than structural calls, yet why don't some departments reconize the highways as a dangerous place??????? Even worse, EMS agencies who are grossly negligent protecting their members on the highway.....but that in itself could be a whole seperate topic.

I've heard a rumor that FDNY is switching to TNT rescue tools from the current Hurst equipment. Any truth to this?

It's $900 for the D-Reb and the kit lens package. You will have to buy a CF card, as I said a 1 or 2 GB, which currently retails for between $70 and $150, depending on the size and model of the card. Also, don'tforget a good case, one of which can usually be had for around $50-$70, a protective lens filter, for around $15, and, IMO, thats all you really need to start. I think personally the Rebel would be a good camera for you to start off with too.

I like the new Engine 84....however the only thing that bothers me is how there is no big Engine 84 on the side doors of the rig. It's like they are not proud of being Engine 84 or something.... And personally, I would like to see VFD start taking delivery of Maxim's again, lol!!!

I love my D-Reb! It takes great photos, and has some nice automatic settings, I just wish I had more time to learn about photography so I could make better use of this camera. Does DFHS have a photography class? If so, I'd highly reccomend taking it. However, I was originally aiming for the Nikon D-70, for some reason. When I went to buy it in April, they were having a ton of problems with the software, and the Nikon plant that made the D70's had to shut down to "retool", meaning I would have to wait at least 2 months to get one of the newly produced versions of the camera. So I got the Canon D-Reb, and I love it, but I still wonder if the D70 wouldve been better. A major portion of the decision bewteen the two is wheter you have a film SLR camera now, and what lenses you have with it. If you have Canon EOS lenses, then go with the D-Reb, they are compatible. Same with the Nikons. When buying the D-reb, make sure you buy a large memory card....I'd reccomend a 1GB CF card, which is what I use in my camera now. Also, I'd invest in a spare battery, a filter to protect the lenses, and a good quality case....I use the Tamarac bag, which offers excellent protection for my camera. Also note there is a $100 rebate available for the D-Reb, bringing the price to $899 at Canon authorized retailers. (Try and get the limited edition all-black Canon Digital Rebel) The only thing I don't like about my D-reb....is that it is sometimes hard to focus in low light. Other than that I love it. (Please note some of my advice came from tbendick and Truck4 who always pass along advice when I have questions. My photography knowledge is nothing, though I hope the above advice is not total jibberish and helps a little)

Awesome photos!! The 1962 Mack C is HOT!! Is it still around/in service anywhere? Too bad the Croton FD doesnt really believe in keeping their history alive...... :-( Also, seems like E-119 has a long history of using Macks....until they purchased Tanker 10, which coulda and shoulda been on a Mack chasis!!

I personally know a couple of members from this department. I will be making them quite aware of what happened. I know they read this post, too.

This was an extremly unusual incident, but just goes to show how vunerable our 911 system is in this county. Gosh, if two skells could accomplish what they accomplished.....what else are smarter more "driven" crooks who may be interested in causing trouble capable of? It's very scary! As far as the backup system goes, this is Westchester County. You expect a backup system?? Not unless there's public outcry for one over a published scandal that equates to bad PR, or somebody steps up to the plate to try and prevent a future reoccurence. But hey, you something frivolous? You got it!!

Looks nice! Looks like a pretty intense LED package as well, the "clear" appearance adds a nice touch. http://www.plcustom.com/descriptionpage_in...ntro.cfm?id=716

Did they get 'em in? Anybody got pics yet?

I'm sorry to hear of the latest setback, but it's only a small obstacle I think in the path to the great treatment modalities they have at Loma Linda. I hope JimmyBoy is doing better today, and that you guys are OK out there.

Problem seems similar to the one in the WC

Any current updates on thsi situation?

Interesting Story. Rockland County FTC has a Flashover Simulator, and they have had it for years. It's definetly an awesome tool, something every firefighter should experience....I don't understand why Westchester County does not have one still. During the late 90's, I took most of my classes at the RFTC. That was during the "bad years" of the WCFTC. The classes, instructors, and equipment there are awesome. I had a oppurtunity to return there recently, and they are still way, way ahead of WCDES in many respects, as are many DES's. Sure, the entry level course situation has gotten better, but the continuing FF education has not gotten any better, or any more challenging IMO.

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Found the link to these photos on another forum. Pretty interesting. http://nciv.flabber.nl/index.php?nciv_id=327605#start

Well, since the state is going to be doing nothing in the foreseeable future about the dangerous section of Route 9A (From Hawthorne-Croton), then I suggest that Briarcliff Manor FD, being more or less in the middle of the dangerous section of 9A, be provided with funds to purchase a specialized foam engine. Maybe staffing could be shared by neighboring FD's. This route is heavily traffic-d by gasoline tankers, and since this happens about once a year, if not more, than it's due to happen again. This would be a neccasary tool, IMO, for Briarcliff and area FDs who will have to continue to respond to these incidents, which have the potential to be a lot worse than we saw last night? (What if it was at rush hour, or closer to a residential areas????) Fairview's trailer is great, but for a volatile situation like this, it may too far away. Plus Fairiviews foam unit has I-287 to worry about, whcih is another enormous hazard. I suggest the engine have pump and roll capability, a bumper mounted remote control turret capable of spraying a large swath of foam, and 2000 gallons of water, with a 200 gallon foam cell. But then again, Millwood has tons 'o foam too. :-k

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I wasn't so much reffering as to how fast an agency could get a crew, I was referring to the choking traffic situation often present on Westchester roadways, especially on a Fridy afternoon, when the traffic volume on WC roads seems to be the worst of the week.

Ya know, I never really was a big fan of Third Watch,and stopped watching after the first season. I recently started watching it when they moved it to Friday night. I'm hooked now, and also like the reruns every night at 11p on A and E. Tonights episode. WTF happened to Doc! I felt so bad for him, I hope they do not do away with his character. It's wrong what he did, but not entirely unrealistic by any mean (Stress can work in weird ways). I also really like the way Bosco handles things, however unothodox it may be. Anyways, It seems like they are doing away with the Fire and EMS charecters, or side of the show. I hope not. As overdramatized and incorrect as it is sometimes, it's a decent show to watch. I'm looking foward to the new FDNY drama coming to FX as well, which hopefully will spark more FF/EMS-related shows if it is succesful. Apparatus wise, I liked the ESU truck...also noticed they had the Spartan/Aerialscope and Ferrara Inferno (Both donated to FDNY after 9/11) in the bay. And they finally got some newer ambulances, they appear to be the Ford E-450/Wheeled coach that was assigned as a RAC unit. And Bosco's POV is pretty hot.

As I always say, you should never have to build a truck to fit the firehouse structure. :sad: