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I always had hoped that the fate of this firehouse would not come to this, but with the deplorable condition of the building, I don't think there was a choice. It would have made a great Yonkers Fire Museum, at least. FULL STORY: http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...NEWS03/80513004
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I know this has been a long time coming! Stony Hill (Bethel, CT's) ambulance is hurting, and is definetly long overdue for a replacement! From: http://www.efrsales.com/webpages/vehicles.asp?sectionType=3
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Yonkers seems to put a lot of money into the apparatus, training, and other sections of the fire department budget, while it seems to an outsider very little is invested into upgrading the fire stations to meet today's needs. Is that the case? If so, could the city have done the bare minimum on maintainence for this building to at least keep it "alive" until a further disposition was found, or was this firehouse decrepit when it was closed?
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Interesting. Did the FD alert PD to the situation, or did GPD discover it themselves?
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Interesting story, and it's even more interesting some of the situations they put the FF's in. I can't say with recent events over the past few years that I totally disagree with this practice, especially since you shouldn't have any issues if you have intergrity and morals. However, how they are judgeing some of the situations is what I question. FULL STORY: http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/a...46&id=59442
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Just got the latest (book) publication from Fire Apparatus Journal, "New York City Squad Company Apparatus" by John A. Calderone, published April 2008. Another EXCELLENT FAJ publication! Highly reccomended for any FDNY or apparatus fan! Also, features photos from Westchester's fire apparatus paparazzi and EMTBravo Member/Contributor, Joe Pinto. http://www.fire-police-ems.com/books/bn2095.shtml
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ncident Photos-Englewood, NJ 2nd Alarm 4-21-08 Photos By Michael Messar, From OnTheJobNY.com http://www.onthejobny.com/gallery/The-Latest/englewood/
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spelt is SPELLED wrong. LOL. Unless you are talking about the whole grain flour. The error has been fixed. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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My point is mutual aid shouldn't be an everyday thing. This incident was far from a disaster. FDNY only does callback in a major emergency situation. Many other cities and towns with similar or worse economics then Westchester handle these types of incidents (the sanitation truck rollover) every day by themselves. If Westchester wants to depend on mutual aid for everything above a dumpster fire, then the least they can do right now is centralize dispatch to make more efficent use of resources and unify incident command. Getting a little more micro, there's no reason why the Town Of Greenburgh couldn't consolidate it's fire districts and allocate resources better. I bet if you gave the current Car 2151 (Chief D. Raftery) the title of Greenburgh FD Chief, things would be a lot different, and a lot better, in the town of Greenburgh. After all,(unincorporated) Greenburgh has one PD,one EMS, and 3 career/combo FDs. Doesn't make sense to me. For example, both Fairview and Hartsdale have typically only an apparatus operator assigned to their Tower Ladders, and NO additional FF's or officers. Both also commit firefighters full time to dispatch. Now, if you transferred dispatch to 60 Control, sold Hartsdale's TL, and put the two FF's assigned to the desk, and the two apparatus operators on Fairview Ladder 1, now you have a fully staffed truck company that could cover the Town along w/ Ladder 4.
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Thanks for the details above. However, I stand by my point if we need to rely so heavily on one another for mutual aid, then we should all be one department. Additionally, if a combination department has volunteers that don't show up to incidents routinely, then why are the volunteers there? To justify not having to hire the proper amount of personel? Also, isn't relying on callback manpower another cheat for not having enough manpower.... I was not there, and I am looking at the incident objectively. . Victim's didn't need extrication, as per above. The house(s) in danger were checked and evacuated, therefore only a property threat there. Vehicle was stablized, and equipment to do such was available almost immediately from DPW right down the street. Lines were stretched, and hazmat scenarios were prepared for. What if these workers were actually trapped, AND there was a structure fire in Greenburgh? How many resources would that have taken up? And, since all Technical Rescue resources were tied up, was a technical rescue team called in to cover Greenburgh in addition to the suppresion resources that were relocated? With the amount of resources the Town Of Greenburgh has, between all THREE career supposedly combination districts AND the very well equipped and trained Greenburgh PD Tech Rescue, I'm sorry but it's a shame that M/A was needed to cover and not enough manpower could be found. Fairview has a Hazmat AND Foam AND heavy rescue. Greenville has a USAR trailer and Tactical Support Unit. With the amount of taxes Greenburgh residents pay, incidents such as this should be self sufficient within the town. As pointed out above, with available Engine and Ladder companies, and M/A so close by AND callbacks, what's the rationale behind calling other departments, only to send them back a few minutes later. Was the dispatcher aware of his or her resources, who was available, where they were, how heavily they were commited, and when they would be freed? Oh, wait, there at least FIVE different agencies dispatching this incident. BTW, properly staffed is an officer, apparatus operator, and 2 firefighters trained and competent to perform in the tasks the company will do. Point is, we should use these incidents to justify proper staffing and resource alignment, and admit our staffing flaws when a high profile incident such as this comes up, and not try to cover it up or pretend like nothing's wrong. I'm sure a great job was done by all, but could it have been done more efficiently?
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The Town Of Greenburgh is currently auctioning off some surplus equipment online. http://www.auctionsinternational.com/displ...?categories=330 Greenburgh DPW takes pretty good care of their vehicles. Some of the equipment listed may make great auxillary equipment, such as the rolloff truck and dumpsters, for transporting shoring for example. I sure would start a truck collection with that '79 Mack though!
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I like the Ferrara Ultra cab, other than FDNY and Mount Vernon, NY and now Pelham- did any other Ultra's get delivered? Since this is a 2004, was this a demo or did it see service somewhere else? Also, will Engine 5 become the new primary Engine, or will Engine 4 still retain that title? Also, what's the status on R-45?
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With all the resources in Greenburgh, especially the duplication of resources, there's no need to strip other understaffed fire districts of their protection. Don't you think White Plains has enough to worry about with their exploding daytime population and buildings and not having enough staffing to handle the new load, such a 40 story buildings. Also, I can see bordering towns, but making New Rochelle come all the way to Greenburgh? Why don't we just re-name New Rochelle FD "Bail-Out FD", since they seem to be, next to Yonkers, the only other properly staffed department in the County that other agencies abuse. As far as a callback for Hartsdale to fully staff their spare engine, that's a several thousand dollar expenditure right there. What was Hartsdale's TL-15 doing during all this? Doesn't Hartsdale have volunteers to fill out the staffing? The area where the truck flipped is a notorious "border war" zone. I'm sure all FD's showed up and thought it was their district, when in reality, I'm sure that Greenville FD in conjunction with GPD and GDPW could have handled the incident themselves, letting the other agencies handle their busy agendas. If Westchester is going to continue to utilize the M/A sytstem and callback system for what should be routine incidents, then we should just combine all departments, since we obviously can't function without one another. And, I guess no one has ever heard of the concept "available at the scene".
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That's AWESOME! What is the heritage of the rig, and what are the plans for it?
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I wish all three Town Of Greenburgh Sanitation workers the best for a speedy and full recovery. It was one of these type trucks, although I'm unsure if it was an R-Model Mack or Mack Granite chasis. Truck 25, as pictured above, is used to collect bulk materials, especially brush and other debris after storms, as well as assist the Arbor Unit of GDPW. It happened on a very sharp curve, that banks toward the outside of the road. I'm not going to speculate on how it happened. My guess is they were heading to the Yonkers transfer station across I-87 from Stew Leonards to empty their refuse, or coming from their depot, which is a few hundred feet down the road (when you're going northbound or southbound on the Sprain, between the "high bridge", AKA Heatherdell Rd, and Jackson Ave, that DPW Yard is Greenburgh DPW. As far as the units that responded, I don't know the scope of the incident, but I know that the truck was on a hill where it could have easily slid down into a house. Also, there's a nearby stream/wetland area (Sprain Brook) and small pond that any fluids would have immediately drained towards. Additionally, this incident occured where corners of three fire districts meet (Hartsdale, Ardsley, Greenville) exactly where the truck landed. EMS is Greenburgh PD and Greenburgh PD for EMS. I hadn't heard they had stripped other communties of their fire protection to handle this incident. In my opinon only based solely on the pieces of information I have, there were more then enough resources there to handle both the incident and maintain coverage of all the respective districts without utilitzing the M/A system. But, that's life in Westchester, especially in slower departments. Can someone from Hartsdale, Greenville, or GPD Tech Rescue elaborate on this incident?
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Congrats to all!!! All three are active, longtime EMTBravo members. I'm confident all three who were given the privledge to dispatch for 60 Control will be an asset to the team. Remember, there's a LOT of experience and great people dispatching there.....you can learn a ton from where they've been. It's a great place to work, and great people to work with. It's a VERY tough job, and will be very daunting at first, and stressful throughout, there's a lot to learn and there's a million things that keep changing...but just hang in there, it will be a great career.
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Date: 5-5-05 Time: 1150hrs (Approx) Location: Sprain Rd. @ Old Sprain Rd. Frequency: Units Operating: Greenville FD C-2151 (I/C) Engine 150, L-4, R-29, Hartsdale Engine 170 & 2172, Ardsley Engine 165 & C-2011, Greenburgh PD EMS, Greenburgh PD Tech Rescue, Greenburgh PD, Greenburgh DPW w/ GDPW Wrecker and other GDPW equipment for vehicle recovery. Description Of Incident: Mack Granite Sanitation Truck w/ Leach hydraulic Packer body overturned on a sharp curve. Two sanitation workers ejected from the vehicle, transported w/ head and abdominal injuries, third worker self-extricated and also transported w/ moderate injuries. Vehicle came to rest on hill just above a house, and near a stream. Difficult vehicle recovery performed by Greenburgh DPW. Truck was loaded with garbage and on it's way to the transfer facility when the accident occured, and spilled contents, parts, and fluids across the roadway, which was closed for 4 hours. Writer: x635
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(PHOTO THREAD) Kick in your photos of Yonkers Fire Stations on this thread: Yonkers Engine 310, may be one of the oldest active career firehouses in Westchester County:
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I see nothing good about this website, nor do I really understand what purpose it serves. http://www.ratemycop.com/
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Recently, I had the chance participate in a demo of a Pierce Velocity Engine. This apparatus was equipped with keyless entry, just like a car remote. As a backup, there's a keypad next to the drivers door to enter a combination, as well as a manual overide switch underneath the chasis for further backup. I thought this was a great idea, especially for urban and career departments that may have to leave their apparatus outside in various circumstances. I hope to see it become standard equipment.
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Ambulances have had keyless entry for a long while now, at least 10 years. It's only recently that I've seen them on custom-built fire truck chasis.
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Just curious if anyone has any good stories about situations where an "out of the box" resolution was applied to an emergency situation?
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In the last few photos, Goldens Bridge new tactical engine seems almost completed....has it been delivered yet? 2007 Ford F-550 4x4/4 Guys (It was explained in prior posts that one of the main purposes that this Engine would be used for was to access the long narrow driveway's to large estates in GBFD's first due, that would be inaccesible via regular engine. Also would be able to handle brush fires, etc) http://www.firehouseapparatus.com/index.cf...&truckID=76
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Gary Remling Belltown FD - Career Member Local 786, Retired Served from 1968-2008 (Currently active volunteer at BFD) Passed away suddenly today at the age of 53. Very good friend of EMTBravo Mod jcopolla any many EMTBravo members. RIP Gary. Thoughts and prayers are with you, your family, friends, and coworkers.