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Cities don't learn. If so, NR would have learned their lesson after giving Macy's "Forever Veto Power" over any future downtown projects. How 'bout rejecting Lord & Taylo"s proposal who then built in Eastchester. Every few years a snake oil salesman comes to town and NR buys the wagonload.

Point out the tax breaks Trump and Cappelli got and are still getting for those hi-rises. Note that both Trump annd Cappelli own their own helicopters. The City of NR can't afford a helo, so who is getting rich on the taxpayer's back? How much has NR have to spend to protect those buildings?

You are correct. Y'all applies to 1 or 2 people. All y'all is for larger groups. Also they don't just do things, they go ahead and do them. For example, we say "I'll get the vent." They say "I'm gonna GO AHEAD and get the vent." I thought I was starting to understand all this until somebody told me to "Go ahead and back up." NIMS is right...we need common terminology. II'm going to write to NIMS, and ask them to address this issue. I'll ask them to expedite. That means I want them to look at this as soon as they ffinish with "What's a Rescue"

Well, Cap, I knew it was eventually going to happen. You of all people,actually said "y'all." The job in question was in NY, so the proper comment should have been "Youse guys was lucky." ...and Nims wants common terminology! Which one of those terms is NIMS compliant? Good job prompting that critique/discussion...Oops! I should have said "Debriefing"

NIMS is dynamic and adaptable for all situations. Where Santa fits is up to the IC. Consider Air Recon for him, or perhaps something in Logistics with his bag of stuff. Planning would be good, too...he's got that Naughty/Nice list going, you know.

I am asking for a PAR. Did Santa check in with 8 Reindeer or 9?

What we need here is an unmarked Chief's car. Then there would be no picture and nothing to discuss

Excellent point. That's why you are a Chief

Mike: I thought you should add that it's there every winter for winter storage

If I am correct, several high rise buildings were built in downtown NR at a considerable low-tax incentive. Those buildings require more firefighters...not less. The cost burden is now on the taxpayer to pritect the city as a whole. The developers, on the other hand. are probably doing quite well financially. An awful lot of people saw this crisis coming when these hi-rises were proposed, but not the City Council. People like Trummp could actually donate the 12 FF's salaries to the city and The Don would not even feel any financial pain. In fact, it would be a charitable deduction for him.

That's my boy, FJ Our Best tool is the one that lies directly beneath our helmet

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PRISONERS ARE AT GITMO BUT I KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM. Quietly, without them knowing, unlock the gates. Their best and most corageous will try to escape. Shoot to kill the first 343 of them. Wound all the rest for life. NEVER FORGET...NEVER

I see a lot of tools mentioned. Your best tool is the one that lies directly under your helmet. Prior to 1959, it was rarely used. However, around 1959, a group of Westchester County Fiemen got together and formed a school for potential officers. It was taught by Emmanuel Fried in Mt. Vernon ( Young guys, google him) and was the start of FIRE SCIENCE in Westchester. Firemen started using proven strategies and tactics, analyzing fire behavior, and thinking before acting. Why lo and behold, they even studied an incident command system. The "tool" has undergone some changes over the years...some good,some not so good. But using the tool is now a given part of firefighting. Let's use the tool to reduce FF LODD's...that hasn't changed much since 1959. PS: Good thread George and Henry. And as Flynn says "CRAWL"

Ever try tennis balls? I recall being a Captain back in the 70's. In charge of roof ops for a big one. Back then, our radios were like aerosol cans...shake well and maybe they would work again. My radio took a bath and would only transmit noises that sounded like bubbles. We only had 1 radio for the roof...1 for the street (now called the IC's Command Post.) There luckily about 50 tennis balls on the roof. I would toss a tennis ball 6 floors down so it would bounce in front of a Captain in the street. I would then communicate with the IC using a series of shouts and hand signals. It's not necessarily WHAT you are using for communications..it's HOW you are using what you've got. I think the thread departed from what Billy Fitz was talking about

It is posssible also that the engine/truck ratio was different because off water supply. The hydrants on that part of Central Av are pretty hefty. If my memory serves me right the static runs about 150psi, and flow about 2000gpm at 20psi residual. One engine with LDH can supply a lot of wet stuff.

It's nothing new. It's called a "use tax," a tax on those who use the service or product. You have been paying this kind of tax if you: Smoke Drink alcohol Fill your car with gas Have telephone service etc etc By the way, the E-911 surcharge on your phone does not go to your local 911 agency. It goes to the NY State police general budget. Just some thoughts for you to mull over

The truss manufacturers go to great lengths to insure they are delivering a structurally sound , reliable product. Quality control is paramount. Here's a load of trusses going from the factory to your next fire

Those old enough to have actually used the Detroit Door opener know that it will do either of two things: 1. Break off the doorknob 2. Crack the terrazzo floor It will rarely open a door, except, maybe in Detroit

The line throwing gun we used to use in the Navy also had a flashlight head so you could see it at night

I would bet that Henry Campbell has pictures of the "Line Shooting Rifle" that was carried on the Rescue. Ask him nicely. (It's OK, Henry, the statute of limitations is long past. And the young people at OSHA never even heard of such a tool.)

Only you would pick up on that, Barry Note that the crank starts are all in the same place, and turn in the same direction.

Getting REALLY OLD, this is my wife's grandfather, Fireman George Grove, tillerman on a FDMV rig

It's a FDC-SPBSOM for a sprinkler system (Fire Dept Connection-Some Parts Borken, Stolen, Or Missing)

Remember Guys like that put fires out with pull up boots, rubber coats, axes for venting, no SCBA, and were yanking 2 1/2 inch hose that weighed 65lbs per 50 foot length. And we think the FF Challenge is tough? They are my heros, too Thanks for reminding me, nfd2004

Don't neessarily knock the "old guys." We are the ones that might have been doing things wrong. We are also the ones who saw the need for some changes and got things changed for today's FF. We asked for better SCBA's, more formal education in the fire service, better PPE, etc. (Look up Emmanuel Friied and where he taught) The Trench cut, for example was developed by trial and error in the South Bronx Burn, baby Burn days. What you have, FF of today, is what the old guys gave you. (Not me, my father. I just made a few improvements and passed it along) Look ahead, young Firefighters, but look back, too