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That's it! Spelling! The city council thought they were making him Chef of Department. Now it's starting to make sense.

To back up JFlynn's statement of YFD policy, I would like to verify that the problems that YFD has had with some FDs were never a case of YFD bullying those departments or being pricky. Over my 34 year career, my guys sat in YFD Houses as many times as Yonkers sat in ours. Yonkers calls back as soon as mutual aid is requested and so do we and that is the case in point. It's called MUTUAL aid for a reason: You help me. I help you. If MUTUAL aid doesn't work two ways, then it's just AID...or CHARITY.

He started out as liason until he got in his pickup truck with the windows closed and surrounded by bees. ICS is dynamic and flexible.

OK I should have explained better; assisting agencies are under Liason,but (one more time) if there is no Liason Established, they report directly to IC. NFIRS reporte are written by the FD having jurisdiction. For dual response, Companies on mutual aid write it as M/A Given. Otherwise the State computer will see it as 2 incidents, not one. I never passed off paperwork to a neighboring FD. It is rumored that we pushed a car fire over the city line into White Plains so they would do the NFIRS, but I'll deny it.

No, I did not file a 215A Safety Analysis. Tht incident was too small to warrant a myriad of paperwork. Same as a food on the stove job. You don't fill all the papers all the time. Besides, I didn't have an epi pen to write with.

Swarm of estimated 50,000 honeybees in my son's tree (of course he was at work and had already called beekeepers) FYI BEEKEEPERS ARE FREE. THEY CAPTURE THE SWARM AND TAKE IT TO THEIR BUSINESS FOR FERTILIZING CROPS. 2172 came out of retirement and established command. Beekepers arrived and hot /cold zones established by Command after consultation with beekeepers. Check it out...ICS provides for "Technical Specialists" under the Plannning Section. Since no Planning Section was established, the specialists report directly to the IC. ICS is for EVERYTHING! Swarm was in lightweight branches, unable to take the weight of a straight ladder so the beekeeper could not get into a position to box the swarm and cut the branch. I enlisted a neighbor, a Ches.FD Capt. to put a 8ft stepladder in the bde of his pickup so the beekeeper could reach the needed height. The Capt stayed in his truck, windows up until cleared by the beekeeper. The Capt was considered an "Assisting Agency" as opposed to the specialists. He comes under Liason. I learned something that day, so I went home and was done for the day. Hopefully, people will read this will learn a few things. Not bad IC'ing for a retired guy, eh, helicopper?

GOOD WORK,CAP. Congratulate the Southern Command staff for me. Virginia Division had: 2 Water conditions 1-assist beekeeper 1 structure fire (burned circuit breakers. internal failure) We used to call that "fire within a structure, not affecting the structure." Total 4 runs, maybe more, but I forget.

I read the Incident Alert for the recent loss of an engine and checked the flight path. IA says the loss of engine occurred over Phila, yet the pilot opted to continue to his destination at Westchester. I know the plane can operate on one engine but isn't this pilot being a bit reckless by not declaring an emergency and requesting the nearest airport? The flight tracker says his track was not over Philly but closer to Atlantic City. Is loss of engine that little zig-zag in his track? I believe he could have (should have) requested a landing at Wilmington, Atlantic city, Philly, McGuire, Newark, Teterboro, JFK, or LGA instead. Is it an emergency if you can pass up that many fields? Or was it an imprudent choice to go on to HPN. A pilot is responsible for the souls aboard but also to the people on the ground who are at risk if engine 2 fails. OK Pilots out there, what do you think?

Old USN proverb: The Six P's Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance Application: Buy car, Try Chains

Thanks, guys, you answered my questions. I try to learn something every day. It's NOON and I learned something already. I don't have to worry about a plane with one engine. Maybe I'll take a nap.

In marine rules of the road, there is what is called the General Prudential Rule. It means you should do what the prudent person would do. Granted I don't know all the variables in this case and I am not a pilot. I know the plane can fly on one engine, But should it? It's rare, but an aircraft can be turned into a rock by a well-placed Canada Goose. We are all in the emergency services business and deal with the rare all the time. How many times have we said "What are the chances of that happening again?" How not-rare does it have to be before we make a rule?

The Job description is well written. I am impressed. It is a lot better than many I've seen.

The Firefighter is at fault! Why? Because this is 2010. Everything is somehow the Firefighters fault. The economy? Our fault Low private sector pensions? Our fault Gulf war? Our fault...retaliation for our 343 Global warming? Our fault...we go shopping with rigs Civilian fire death? Our fault...slow response Vehicle accident? Our fault...driving too fast

Here are a couple of instructor quotes from actual pump operator courses. One is the New York version, the other is the Virginia Beach version. They are quite similar. I would like to hear the Califoirnia version. FROM THE SOUTH: What should you flow that nozzle at? 40psi, right? Sure you could flow it at 50 or 80. Can you hold on to it? I don't know. What's the worst that could happen? Slide around on your back on the floor for a bit 'til you hit a wall and that's where you fight fire from...it's just that simple yall FROM THE NORTH" To determine correct Pump Pressure, simply throttle up slowly until the nozzleman just leaves the ground. Then throttle back 1/2 turn (on digitals, quickly tap the "Decrease" button twice). If the nozzleman is in the building or otherwise out of sight, this can also be done audibly.

Look harder, Barry.

They've had that law here in Virginia for about a year,now, and here's my unscientific surveey I (like you) have always pulled over a lane because we don't want to hit a brother, or we have a little more common sense than the average dope out there. After a year of this VA law, under 10% pull over, the rest don't. I have heard of only one ticket given, probably because the cop is busy with his business at hand. I fear it's just a bulldog with sharp teeth, but he cant get you because he's on a rope. FYI, 2 days after NY passed the hands free cell phone law, I saw Amy Paulin talking on her cell phone to her ear. Stay safe out there, keep an eye on traffic, the life you save may be your own.

You may like Nitrous Oxide to make your car go fast. It's just Laughing Gas to me.

For x635: It's not "Leeway." That Capt. made the first command decision in this incident. With Authority comes Responsibility. For the Captain: Come on, Tex, ya gotta at least send a company to look. To the CHIEF:: 24000 runs or not, lots of BBQ joints or not,,, that was a dumb thing to say after you made a parking lot. To the Cab Driver: Congrats, guy, good job. You are the only one in this scenario that knew what he was doing. Wanna take the dispatcher's test?

The fire service, both dispatchers and supprssors are at a point in time where SOP's and/or SOG's have possibly become a detrement as opposed to a benefit. Some leaders believe they have the soslutions to all problems so they write SOP's one after another, until the SOP book is so thick it takes the low man on the totem pole longer to decipher what action he should take than to control the incident. Gone are the days of thinking for ourselves, but the problem in a nutshell, the book can't cover every situation. I keep saying SOP, but please don't throw that "We use SOG because they're only guidelines" story at me. Screw up and either term can throw you under the bus. I remember when NFPA only had guidelines. What happened there? Back to dispatchers making decisions. Your FD hired you from a list because the test you took allegedly tested your ability to think and make decisions. Next they trained you to make decisions. And then hey told you to go exactly by the book. If your FD doesn't want any dispatcher to think and decide, why put a human in that position. Use a computer instead. I called SEARS yesterday to see if my order was ready. I talked to a very nice girl who kept giving menues to find out what i was calling for. At the end ,she said "Your order will be at the dock at three pm." If dispatchers aren't allowed to think and decide, we could get that SEARS girl to dispatch. " If you smell smoke say "smell" if you see smoke say "see", If there are actual flames say "FIRE", if you are trapped say "trapped". I'm sorry "Oh God come quick" is not a recognized answer..please listen to the menu again,,,,,. Personally, I really think I would have a thinking dispatcher able to say "I'm getting multiple calls and a report of a person trapped I, your dispatcher,,,am bumping this up to a full assignment and adding another truck company. What do others want?

WESTCHESTER USED TO GIVE CPAT after they were hired, sometime during proby school. Demps, don't tell me they are now doing it before hiring, just like the rest of the world!! It's Westchester County Personnel. They can't have caved and doing things right. For those on the list: If you call County Personnel with a question, make sure you get two others to call on the same day with the same question. You will probably get three different answers.

So?

I know,but threads tend to change directions 10 times. They rarely end up on the subject they started on, so I just threw this out there.

We should differentiate between an on arrival report and a size-up. On Arrival Report= a brief description of "Watcha Got" Size-up= A full assessment of the situation (not a radio broadcast) used to formulate your Incident Action Plan. She Was A Tall Cow. And progress reports should be required by all Chiefs of Dept. They not only inform the Chief, but they give a heads up to the next-up companies should the situation escalate. They also remind the IC of how long he's been there, and forces him to evaluata his plan, his progress, or lack thereof

Best of luck, Joe. Relax, and no jumping into the Bronx River. Bill

The story is vague, but it looks to me that these are all-volunteer Fire Districts or Fire Protection Districts, and the contract they are referring to is not a Career FF contract. I believe the contract is between the town and the fire protection providing agency (agencies).