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Everything posted by wraftery
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Wow! Here we go again. It sounds like the first arriving officer should now say "Arrived at 100 Main Street I don't see anything but I'll have to investigate further because I can only see sides 1 and 2. Have incoming units reduce their response to non-emergency but they don't have to proceed with caution any more because those words trigger something in their brains and they may get into an accident. OOPS, I said sides1 an 2. For those of you who can't convert that, it's A and B. No signs of fire after my 360, but the neighbors keep pointing to the house across the street. Whoop, there it is." Why not just leave it as "Nothing Showing"
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If I were able to "Beam you down, Scotty" into a room on fire and with a nozzle in your hand, I bet you couldn't tell me what city you are in. Hopefully, though, you would know what to do next. I was promoted to first line supervisor (1977) before there was a FLIP school. That might be a good topic for discussion.
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NO, I DID NOT! (Actually, I was just taking a ride with the grandkids.) Now that you brought that up, there were other difficulties on the trip that all our training doesn't touch upon. The kids got ice cream at the marina when we first started out. Five minutes out, Brayden stepped on his popsickle and wanted to return for a new one. His father explained that the wrapper was still intact, so it was still good, then showed him how you could use a popsickle stick as a spoon. Training does a lot, but sometimes ya just gotta wing it.
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Funny you should mention training, Capt32. I learned water rescue using a boat when I was about 16 years old. That's 50 years ago, but this was the first rescue of a swimmer in trouble I ever made. My son is on the VBFD Tech Rescue team and learned the evolution a few short years ago. When the rescue was being made, we were both exactly on the same page. Each knew what the other was doing. Communication between us was clear and concise and both of us knew the drill step by step. That was an operation conducted by two generations of firefighters. You might need your training today, tomorrow, or maybe 50 years from now. When the unusual situation comes along, it usually comes quickly "Whoop...there it is." Ours is the only profession that has to commit every training course to memory and remember it forever. Do you remember high school trig? Probably not. But do you remember the signs of impending backdraft? I bet you do...forever. Tommy Brennan (RIP) used to say that a good firefighter has to fill his head with "stuff" and be able to get up at 2am from a sound sleep and be able to pull that "stuff" back out.
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I don't know if a Higher Power put me in this particular situation or not, but I doubt it was a test for me to enter the Big Firehouse in the sky. I do know, however, that we all get 15 minutes of fame in our lifetime and some of you people are using mine up with bullpoop
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One more thing, I am not one of your very own.
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EEEEasy, there big fella. That's how things get blown out of proportion. First, let's get that "Heroic" off the marquee. Heroic means that you put yourself in great danger to save a life. That was not the case. Like most rescues the rescuer happens to be at the right place at the right time. All we did was make a pickup that just involved some maneuvering to get to them. Granted they were on the brink of drowning, but it was just a pickup by a boat with 2 firefighters aboard. We just did what we always do, even on our day off. Not heroic at all. Let's make some use out of this thread and make it a training session on marine rescue of persons in the water and in distress operating from a private vessel from a private boat. People who are on the brink of drowning usually do not call for help. They are silent with a look of panic. If they show these signs, they are going down very soon. SOP 1. Call Mayday... get help on way 2. Never lose sight of victim. Point your arm in vic.s direction for your boat's driver to aim 3 When close enough throw PFD's or anything that floats DO NOT enter the water 4 Throw rope if needed DO NOT enter the water 5 Once vic is alongside ensure motor is off so there are no prop injuries 6 Haul vic at the lowest point , usually it's the stern. DO NOT ENTER WATER 7 DO NOT ENTER WATER (Are you getting the point?) "Heroic" is a pretty heavy word. Don't use it lightly
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This is Eatchester's R-5. It went into service in the mid to late 50's
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I have to agree that these pictures were later than the 1950s. I think this is the second generation of a rescue style White chassis style body. The first was similar in compartments but was powered by a White (brand name) truck. Eastchester had a White in the late 1950s. I think the Chief was FDNY's and said "I'll take one of them" I'll look for pics
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Ah mein,too
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The 360 is not a newly instituted part of tactics, and it is not necessarily done by the IC himself, but by a subordinate who is assigned by either the IC or assigned by a SOP. Part of the roof man or OV man's responsibilities is to check the rear and report. Chiefs that are lucky enough to have an Aide will often send the Aide to do the 360. Of course, the IC can elect to look for himself.
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You are absolutely correct. The person communicating with FD/PD is most likely the pilot. I don't understand the confusion but it seems to be with which place on the ship the transfer will occur. It may be a problem with the ship's crew as opposed to PD/FD. HE WAS RUDE??? He had a huge ship that was drifting towards land, shallows and other ships, and as they say in the maritime industry "A collision can ruin your entire day." His job was to regain maneuverability and get control of his ship. I thought he was being very calm in consideration of his situation. Also note that a collision could cost him his pilots license.
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Wow! That's a lot of keys to be missing. Maybe Brunacini was giving them out at conventions. You know. Like challenge coins
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Cogs; Happy Easter. If You are in CT, stay safe. If you are in Afganistan, stay extra safe and say thanks to the troops
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Give a call to any of the Greenburgh depts. They are all the same. Or New Rochelle who we used as an example when we developed Greenburgh's
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Cold, hard statistics are not necessarily cold nor hard. Very often they can be twisted by leaving out categories you don't like or massaging things to get the result you want. For example, we've all heard that something like 25% of all personal injury auto accidents involve the use of alcohol. That means that 75% are caused by a******* that are stone cold sober! You don't see any checkpoints to get them off the road.
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When a governing body browns out a firehouse, they are making an assumpton that either nothing will hapen in the company district, or other companies can handle it just for that night. I don't understand their logic but it makse sense to them. How about reversing the logic. What would happen if a Fire Chief recalled the entire department for one day a month because he assumed that there would be a major fire that day? He would probably be fired innediately for come up with such a preposterous theory. But isn't it the same logic as the brownout?
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I apologize, too. I didn't realise that youwere saying it tongue-in-cheek, but you must admit that there are those out there who really don't know the difference (or non-difference) between FAST and RIT. Good one liner, ltrob, Too bad I missed the catch.
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I can't call it common sense because it really isn't that common in Westchester. Just reading through some of the misconceptions regarding FAST. My fingers (2)are wearing to the bone explaining the rules and standards regarding compliance here on emtb. I don't intend to explain it again, but now we have the question "Can Fast leave once the fire is out?" And the answer "Yes, if there is a RIT team in place." It goes to show that even the clueless can give a correct answer once in a while, FAST_RIT_MAT=Samey same. Now, lets try the common sense approach: You had a house fire that was a defensive operation from arrival to end of incident. Now the dwelling has collapsed into the basement, leaving only the 30 foot chimney standing as you wet the rubble down from afar. Question: To comply with all rules and standards, Did you ever need a FAST team anywhere in the operation. If you answered "No,as a skilled IC, would you have one in place any way?
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I think the name of the course is ERTBC. It stands for Emergency Response to Terrorism-Basic Concepts Please correct me if I'm wrong, correct your post if I'm right. Thanks
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You may be third with no openings, but when I was on the Captains list with no openings and lo and behold, in a couple of months a Deputy Chief burned his car for the insurance money. When I retired, it was because I was diagnosed with Parkinson's. That certainly was not a planned opening. That seat in the car might be closer than you think, Stay prepared
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I always remember Canto with a badge and a tennis ball
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I must agree with Mr. Polet on one point. I, too dislike the term "First Responder." I prefer to be called a Firefighter. Many people draw their picture of our job just like Mr. Polet. To them, we spend our days sitting around the kitchen table playing cards or checkers and expecting a big pension for doing so. As a college professor, he should know that you can't just make a statement like that without research to see if it's true. I suggest he, using the Scientific Method, do a survey of firehouses nationally to see how many fire stations even have a checkerboard or a deck of cards in their quarters. He is also correct when he says that people should learn to save themselves and their families without the aid of firefighters. Every family should have an escape plan to safely get out of their home without the aid of firefighters. It should also have two ways out and a meeting place outside. The man is a genius! Why didn't we think of that? He also says we should be preventing fires or trying to end destructive fires altogether. Right again, Mr. Polet, we should be pushing for laws that require automatic sprinklers, even in one family homes and college dorms. Those are two places where the fire death rate is high. As for the "America's heroes" image? I've only made three rescues in my 34 years on the job. That's not very productive of me, so I never thought of myself as a hero. I am sure the average college professor is more worthy of the title because in the same 34 years he will have passed his "knowledge" on to hundreds of young men and women. I could go on and on, but I think you get the picture. Just call me "Firefighter," I'll be happy with that because I can meet up with any Firefighter in the World and I'll know what he does for a living. Mr. Polet can have the title "First Responder" if he likes, but he'll have to start showing up at emergencies in under 5 minutes to keep the title because that's when we get there, rain or shine, day or night, Christmas included. And even if we don't like you, we'll get on our bellies, go into the fire, and pull your sorry ass out.
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Fairview's "Executive Deputy Chief" was a title that was invented by Chief Mauro a few years ago. I don't know if it is used anywhere else. The EDC, I believe works straight days at DC pay plus a stipend. I think he does Admin duties. They did it round-robin with their five DCs. I think it was just to mess with Civil Service since Civil Service had no such thing. It wasn't a promotion. It wasn't acting out-of-title, it wasn't anything civil service knew what to do with. So there ya go, Bobby, I don't know for sure where it belongs either.
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Sorry, guys, I'll have to disagree. It's not Band-Aid repairs, it's. not an improper use of the bidding process. I was at the original dedication of the training center and it was one of the greatest things the county could do for the fire service. So what happened to it? We wrecked it! Not once but over and over. Instead of following NFPA guidelines that allow for a maximum of 150lbs of Class A combustibles, we torched much more than that. We spalled the concrete and warped the steel doors and window shutters. All of this not for actual knowledge snd skills to be gained, but just to say {to no one who gives a crap) how macho we are because our fire was bigger than yours. If you are not getting enough runs and want your helmet look salty, put in in your Barbecue grill and don't wreck a perfectly good Training Center again.