hudson144

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AMEN -Happens here in westchester all the time! class A pumpers for $500,000??? Its not the bells and whistles or LED lights that put out the fires. Amazing what does go on without anyone saying a word! have fun with this one.-hudson

A special salute to the members of eng 311 and yonkers ems for saving the life of a MOS (MEMBER OF SERVICE) OF THE FDMV. Great job with thanks!!!

update- off duty cardiac arrest, the response from yonkers fd and ems certainly made a difference. FDMV mos is improving rapidly and prognosis looks good. keep him in your prayers for a speedy recovery!

the last thing pete kelly (27 charlie) needs is a restaurant! however the pete kelly from xaviers did in faact live in montrose and attend the hendrick hudson school district-tell him I said hello and to put a boat dock in! jjc

cardiac related emergency.

at least they have to have some standards,some jobs do not require anything anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date:4-26-07 Time:1600 Location: South 8th ave Frequency: 154.145 Units Operating: MVPD, MVPD ESU T-1, MVFD R1, E4 ,Empress EMS Description Of Incident: Victim of gunshot wounds. Whereabouts of shooter unknown. Writer: hudson 144 1830 hrs-news 12 reporting 1 DOA from gunshot wounds,another with"serious injurys".

Since the concept of fast teams has been in westchester I have noticed many times that these teams are constantly going to work. This is not directed to any teams involved but it appears that something is going on here in westchester and it may need some tweaking. As always this is my opinion so you can agree or dis agree with me and I won't be offended. The thought of fast teams is a good one. I have been in favor since its inception. I have seen the training of various teams and have also witnessed them standing by doing what they are supposed to do. When a team is "put to work" is the fire scene covered for rescue of our own? Until the next team arrives I would say no. Are members of the firefighting force that are not being utilized for fire suppression dutys being put off to the side? If you do need manpower at the fire scene should the IC call for manpower and allow the fast team to be assigned to their original assignment, after all they have usually done a size up of the structure involved and should have had a game plan in place if the worst happens. Who is the one to make this call? IC? safety officer? At fire scenes in the past 2-3 fast teams have been "put to work". Where do we stand if another incident comes up? Does a team from 20 miles away get activated? Time is an important factor here and we may be not doing the right thing for our own on the fireground. what do you think?f you are a member of a fast team and have been on the fireground as the first team in how do you feel when you are "put to work"?

SMOKE SCREEN= 2 man engine co. assigned as the fast team??? when you read the PHOENIX report why waste the manpower when you don't have adaquate manpower from the get go!

good thing it was only a noreaster! guess we can live and learn and prepare for the next large scale incident!

585 you guys do show up to do your job and you all do it well,the additional training and effort is obvious in many eyes out there,the responsiblity should be on the IC TO MANAGE HIS PEOPLE ON THE FIREGROUND. If there is work to do on the fireground especially when the alarm is still active with smoke/flames and the hazard still exists of firefighters getting jammed up then the original team needs to remain in place. As time goes on and the scene is going to require more manpower then the IC needs more indians than call for them. FDNY has the luxury of calling more to the fire scene and they have standards in place where things are pretty much a standard because of the sog's that are set up. From my original post I still feel that the fast team needs to hold their ground and do what they are there for. Nothin worse than sitting there with your thumb up your *** when everyone else is working. To all the fast teams out there, keep up the good work and hopefully we won't need you!

maybe he can buy 4 firehouses that I know of!!!

back in the 70's the air force went to scotchlight numbers on the rigs which made them standout in the dark. It was a benefit to other firefighters but also to the control tower to help identify units while they were driving on the ramps,runways etc.

As a military firefighter at stewart we are required for live fire training annually, over the past few years we were sent to boston to the MASSPORT airport for our live fire training. We spent 3-4 hrs training and the rest of the 3 days having a good time.(2 days travel time) cost effective? no! Now what we do is we bring ina airplane simulater from Kellogg university from Michigan. It is a simulated a/c that basically a mock up of an a/c and you have propane fires. It is pretty effective as far as having the feeling that you are working on an a/c and it even has an audio recording of people screaming for help. pans are put down under the wings to simulate a flowing fuel fire and the unit has the capability of engine fires also. The only thing that I do not like about it is that the fire is propane fed. The experience that you gain from doing pit fires with actual a/c fuel can not be gained here. In my active duty days every sat morning we were at the pits putting out live fires with handlines, turrets from the rigs. Lets all remember here that a majority of the mishaps from a/c going in and out of the airport have happened off of the installation. The fact that the airport still needs to run even if the a/c is down off of the airport property does not guarantee that an ARFF truck will respond to the incident if it is off the airport property. If a rig from the airport is relocated to an incident offvof the property then that down grades the ARFF capabilty to extinguish a fire on the property.

additional training should include live pit fires, water reservicing, location of water sources etc, flightline familiarization- which would help incoming units to understand the various markings on the taxi ways, ramps, runways-this should be done both during the night and daytime.

the average ARFF vehicle can deplete its water in less than 3 mins. Crews are trained to create a rescue path by dispersing its agent to the primary exit door. I know situations are different if the a/c is broken into sections similair to the sioux city IA crash. This all goes hand in hand with training. If the ops firefighters run out of agent and they have to wait on incoming units I do see a problem. Also if an a/c is down on the runway and it has 90+ SOB's (SOULS ON BOARD) then a real problem is obvious. Manpower is key like every other dept in westchester co. Along with an a/c down incident many resources are needed. EMS-HAZMAT- POLICE- and alot of other resources that I won't get into are needed. I think that what we are talking mainly about here is the primary response that ultimately will decide the overall incidents results. Keep it going!

the county ops people are very well trained and have great knowledge of the aircraft assigned to the airport. they are dedicated to both the ops of the airport as well as firefighting. The concern to me is once the arff rig is depleted of water and agent it is up to the mutual aid departments to be involved with water resupply,ems, firefighting etc. Is the plan a good one? Over the years many people involved have been involved to make the mutual aid plan a more effective plan to include the use of outside agencys. We all know that an aircraft incident can easily happen on the airfield as well as off of the airfield. The key to this is training and education with aircraft. Some airfields throughout the nation are protected by major city depts who have specially trained firefighters at the airport. Should westchester be any different? Good question. If the airport continues to grow you might see a change because of requirements. If you read all that chris 192 posted you might understand how the system works. Stewart might be changing in the near future. Only time will tell with both airports when it comes to fire protection.

from this weekends past storm several depts to include lake mohegan, pleasantville have had situations from the additional weight added to the roofs of structures. Sat in nyc you had to be careful from falling ice chunks falling where we were lined up for the St Patricks day parade.Maybe some of you can add to this and tell us what went on in your area with the snow that accumulated as ice.

smoke screens are everywhere in the fire service! career,volunteer,military, private- usually things get corrected after the tragic incident such as this happens and yes it is usually too late! some depts. pick up and learn from others and some just act as if things didn't happen< be safe!

this could be a fun one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

isn't she married to that guy from Arkansas?

if you look at the post of the 10-77 in the bronx you might want to think of what hazards,problems etc that you might encounter if you were to face a similiar situation. If you notice they called for help,yes help- requesting additional units is a priority,manpower is essential for not only firefighting but for a thourough primary search and manpower for ventilation. Add onto this what else you might consider if this was to happen here in westchester co.

with this post i opened with it being aimed at OMD,later i mentioned to basement fires in general. tonight we had a fire in a 2 1/2 story woodframe. The 1st line was to the interior with the thought of protecting occupants. as crews searched for the stairway to the basement ( obvious basement fire because flames were blowing out basement windows) it was not located. the other option like i had mentioned earlier was to use the rear access door. this was the best route. the hoseline that was stretched via the rear entry found the seat of the fire in the room involved . a bed room recieved heat,smoke & water damage. was this set up with the bedroom legal? probably unlikely. As we searched the first floor the door to the basement was found. it was a small door recessed into the wall and not looking like a regular sized door which re confirms what was mentioned about the new years eve fire. you never know what you might find, renovations? illegal apartments etc.

we all know the basic rule of protecting the stairway for the egress of the occupants, for a basement fire that we had on this past new years eve in a 2 1/2 story wood frame the initial line that was going to go into the basement from the interior basement stairs was no good because when you got to the base of the stairs in the basement the basement was divided . yes SRO's are in the basements also not just on the upper floors,wherever they can they will partitian the rooms to make more sleeping quarters for others, the fire was put out by going into the rear of the structure and utilizing the exterior basement doorway. the crews had a straight shot at the room involved with fire with no chimney effect at all.