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Date: 17 may 09 Time: 2017 Location: 359 so.10th ave c/s 5th st Frequency: 154.145 Units Operating: Engs 3,5,2,Tl1,trk3,R1 Batt 3 Weather Conditions: cloudy Description Of Incident: Smoke From a Bldg Reporters: Writer: Hudson144 2018-10/26 working fire 2018- 2 1/2 story wood frame,basement fire with possible ext to #1 floor (may be a vacant) 2023-E-4 (fast team) 2026-E-6,TRK2 to Sta #3 to cover city. 2035-Batt 3 reports main body of fire K/D,crews still engaged. 2044- ECFD L-17 to FDMV Sta#3 2045-Batt 3 reports crews overhauling

On friday night we put through over 70 firefighters with the Kellogg University's aircraft simulater. Crews were instructed on how to approach the aircraft with ARFF apparatus with all safety precautions reviewed. Crews showed water with both roof/bumper turrets then went to a handline operation creating a rescue path to the L1 door for egress for the victims within the A/C. The simulater is a propane run unit with 3 different ground fires as well as engine fires, smoke and audible screaming from within the aircraft. It gave the 1st in mutual companys a feel of what goes on and what to expect in the event of a incident on the airfield. Tanker operations were used as a re-supply and the other apparatus was set in a staging area. A good drill forall involved to include the airport, and other support agencys that would be involved if it was a "real world" situation.

We aren't meeting the standard yet!!!

Thanks for the additional info-first hand experience ladies n gentlemen! Direct from a con ed gas supervisor, nobody knows better than these guys!!!

Pat Buchanan went off on a liberal the other night on Chris mathews "Hardball". It appears that many feel that this case should rule in favor of the NH20, we will see in time what happens.

If the New Haven 20 prevail what effects will it have on your dept if any?

I'll never forget her, it was a nice day and: ooops sorry didn't read the whole post! lol

Date: 4 may 09 Time: 2256 hrs Location: 28 Knollwood ave Frequency: 154.145 Units Operating: Engs 5,3,2,L3,Tl1,R1,Batt 3 Weather Conditions: rain Description Of Incident: reported smoke from structure Reporters: Writer: Hudson 144 2308- 1 1/2 Frame-heavy fire in basement,3 lines in op crews working,Trk2/Eng6 relocating to Sta 3 2324-main body of fire k/d-extensive overhaul.

Mark puts many hours in out there, great for him!

Sorry Brenden,alot of people call me Hudson and the Mcfuz thing is your screen name that many of us use on here, as far as having an opinion,yes we all have them but I was not sure whatever you were reffering to in your post.My thoughts have always been to fight for what you believe in and that was a standing thought in my mind even prior to the MV situation. To just give in is not me, now whatever the situation is that you might be speaking about I was not able to get info from that post so whatever it is good luck with whatever you were trying to relay out there. I do have an idea but it doesn't belong on here. jjc

This reminds me of mothers day morning 2002 @ 0400 hrs- camp smith had live fire training with automatic weapons, I woke up and said to myself "this is not good" You could hear the weapons loud and clear and knowing its not normal @ 0400hrs I put a call into the NYSP, the trooper at the desk who was a friend said that he didn't know what was going on and cars were sent to investigate. Many in the Tri-Village area thought that Indian Point was under attack.Calls flooded local police agencys. NYSP determined that it was training at Camp Smith. Needless to say local politicians met with Camp Smith and I don't think it will happen again!

12 firefighters from the Bridgeport FD have filed a discrimination lawsuit for not being promoted.The city after learning that no minorities scored well enough sent the test results back to the company that wrote the test to be re-graded which in turn changed the original results of the top candidates. The article can be viewed in the local papers in Bridgeport as well as in fire Engineering Magazine.

Just a thought here- In 1946-1948 my grandfather was a Chief, he drove a 1940 Pontiac with one round red light on the bumper and a 6 volt siren. In 1962-1964 my father was a chief, he drove a 1958 ford fairlane with a bubble gum light on the roof a siren and yes they had 1 radio (46.26), his own vehicle. No car seats for myself or my sisters either! lol How times have changed!!!!

Give up? Go with the flow? Thats why so many guys are in the situation that myself and others are in! Nobody has the ***** to fight and when that happens we all see the outcome! I,m sorry Mcfuz i'm not giving up to nobody! If you feel you are right or have been dealt a wrong deal then stand up for yourself and fight! Thats why the NH20 situation is so important,if it wasn't for these guys civil service might not ever have an equal playing field. The out come will not be till june however the eyes of the nation have been on this case mainly because it has all been wrong! Hats off to them,the Buffalo 13, the Chicago 6 and yes maybe myself being the Mount Vernon 1 ! lol, jjc

What is even more disturbing is when you study and are in a position to be promoted and you find out that your promotion was upheld because of a letter submitted to the mayor has no merit and to make it even worse is that the letter submitted had a forged signature of the president of that above mentioned society and may have been drafted by a senior fire official of the department that you work for! Imagine that?A person in the position of authority forging a letter that denied your promotion! Things will be getting very interesting soon.

The Vulcan decree has been well satisfied in MV, when the numbers are crunched the white male is the minority both on the firefighter level and as well as within the community. City hall has not been monitoring the decree for years (surprised?) and according to the decree it can be disolved. But-it all depends on who is doing the math here. My feeling is that even with the New Haven case going on the Decree is as good as gone! Some feel that the job should reflect the makeup of the community? Is that for all communitys? If so many depts. would not have to hire minoritys and IMO thats not fair. The saga goes on! GOOD LUCK NH 20! * I think in fairness to all involved the Vulcan Decree should be brought back to the Federal Courts to be reviewed to make sure that the decree is being followed correctly without any questions for all involved.It might clear up alot of bad information out there and mend feelings for all!

If you don't live there or intend on moving there-save your money! an organization within the city has been known to come knocking on your door to see if you are in fact a resident. Who gives them that authority is a big question but it has been done many times in the past! Good Luck!

Well Done! To view it Hannity coverage go to New Haven 20.com

GUILTY IN CITY HALL- Former planning commissioner Gerrie post and her boyfriend were convicted of all counts in their federal corruption trial.Gerrie Post and Wayne Charles were convicted of mail fraud and conspiracy.Charles was also convicted for lying to Federal investigators. WE ALL KNOW THAT LYING TO FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS IS NOT A SMART THING TO DO! Keep an eye out to see who is next within the Mount Vernon corruption that appears to be never ending!!!

In reference to this subject- if you don't stand up and fight for your rights then nobody will do it for you! Was there discrimination years ago? yes,does it still exist yes,its now a 2 way street but if you are a white male and you fight for your rights because you got screwed by the leaders of your own department you are a racist? Throughout the nation in education, trades and emergency services cases are being overturned from the 70's and 80's because of the so called "reverse discrimination", there is by the way no such thing as "reverse" its just plain old discrimination! Cogs- maybe when you got denied a position you took it off the chin and let it go, well sir its because of many of us that did that in the past we are in the situation of today. You want equal rights? Then let it be equal across the board! Education- I went to school did my best, joined the military did my best, took civil service exams did my best, and had to deal with quotas and goals, what a bunch of BS! SEE YOU IN COURT!!!

New Haven 20- Story goes on: OPENING ARGUMENT New Haven's Injustice Shouldn't Disappear The Supreme Court should agree to hear the case of a firefighter who was denied a promotion because he is not black. by Stuart Taylor Saturday, Dec. 13, 2008 Frank Ricci, a firefighter in New Haven, Conn., worked hard, played by the rules, and earned a promotion to fire lieutenant. But the city denied him the promotion because he is not black. Ricci sued, along with 16 other whites and one Hispanic firefighter. After a 7-6, near-party-line vote by a federal Appeals Court to dismiss the lawsuit, the plaintiffs petitioned for Supreme Court review. If the Court grants the petition, the now-obscure case will vault to the top of the nation's racial policy agenda, presenting a tough issue not only for the justices but also for President-elect Obama. He could come under great pressure to take a position for or against the blessing conferred by eight liberal lower-court judges on what many voters -- and, I would guess, five justices -- would see as a raw racial quota. To be sure, it is far from clear that the Court will take the case, one of dozens scheduled to come before its confidential conference on December 12. Although a dissent by six conservative and moderate Appeals Court judges urged Supreme Court review, the case does not involve the kind of clear split among lower courts that only the high court can resolve. So it may disappear without a trace, with no occasion for Obama or his Justice Department to take a position. A denial of review would also leave the racial-preference machinery around the country grinding steadily on without interruption. And that would be a shame, in my view, because the stark facts of this case illustrate how racial politics sometimes combine with little-known judicial precedents and "civil-rights" laws to violate the civil rights of working-class and middle-class white, Asian, and (at least in this case) Hispanic Americans. Ricci studied for eight to 13 hours a day to prepare for the combined written and oral exam in 2003 that he hoped would win him a promotion. He spent more than $1,000 buying the books that the city had suggested as homework and paying an acquaintance to read them onto audiotapes. (Ricci is dyslexic and learns better by listening.) And he got one of the highest scores. But Ricci and other would-be lieutenants and captains with high scores did not get the promotions they expected. The reason was that -- because not enough black firefighters had done well enough to be eligible -- New Haven decided to discard the test results and make no promotions at all. A denial of review by the Supreme Court would leave the racial-preference machinery around the country grinding steadily on without interruption. In their lawsuit, Ricci and his fellow plaintiffs claimed that the city, Mayor John DeStefano, and other defendants had violated their rights under the Constitution's equal protection clause and under federal civil-rights laws. U.S. District Judge Janet Arterton of New Haven dismissed the case. A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit affirmed the dismissal, in a process so peculiar as to fan suspicions that some or all of the judges were embarrassed by the ugliness of the actions that they were blessing and were trying to sweep the case quietly under the rug, perhaps to avoid Supreme Court review or public criticism, or both. Arterton was appointed by President Clinton. So were the three 2nd Circuit judges who heard the initial appeal, including Sonia Sotomayor, who is touted by liberal and Hispanic groups as a leading candidate for an Obama appointment to the Supreme Court. The three-judge panel initially deep-sixed the firefighters' appeal in a cursory, unpublished order that disclosed virtually nothing about the nature of the ideologically explosive case. Then the Circuit's more conservative judges got wind of the case. They sought to have it reheard by the full Appeals Court but lost in a 7-6 vote. All but one of the seven is a Clinton appointee. And all six of the dissenters were named by President George W. Bush or his father, with the exception of Jose Cabranes, a moderate Clinton appointee. Writing for the six dissenters, Cabranes said that the majority "failed to grapple with the questions of exceptional importance raised in this appeal," and he urged the Supreme Court to do so. He also raised the question of whether the case involved "an unconstitutional racial quota or set-aside." "At its core," Cabranes wrote, "this case presents a straightforward question: May a municipal employer disregard the results of a qualifying examination, which was carefully constructed to ensure race-neutrality, on the ground that the results of that examination yielded too many qualified applicants of one race and not enough of another?" Cabranes stressed that despite the importance of the issues and the unusually long and detailed briefs, arguments, and factual record, the three-judge panel's "perfunctory disposition" oddly contained "no reference whatsoever to the constitutional claims at the core of this case." Five of the majority judges, including Sotomayor, retorted that New Haven's decision to discard the test results and deny what would otherwise have been virtually automatic promotions to the highest-scoring white and Hispanic firefighters was "facially race-neutral." The reason? Because none of the low-scoring, ineligible African-American firefighters was promoted either. These five judges also endorsed Judge Arterton's conclusion that the city's decision was justified by fears that promoting the high-scoring whites might violate Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and bring a discrimination suit by the low-scoring blacks. I suspect that deep down, Obama would appreciate the simple injustice of the New Haven firefighter case. Simply because a much higher percentage of the whites than of the blacks who took the exams had passed, the majority said (adopting Judge Arterton's opinion), the city could be "faced with a prima facie case of disparate impact liability under Title VII." In seeking Supreme Court review, Karen Lee Torre, the plaintiffs' lawyer, dismissed these supposed fears as a pretext for racial politics and patronage. She stressed that there was no serious evidence that the professionally developed exams were in any way unfair, infected with bias, or unrelated to ability to perform the job. But even so, failing to award a roughly proportionate percentage of promotions to African-Americans could subject New Haven, or any other employer, to Title VII liability -- depending on the identity of the judge -- unless it could prove that it could not possibly have found another exam on which blacks might have done better. Indeed, large racial disparities in performance on written tests used by employers and others have long existed throughout the country. That's what one might expect, given data showing that the average black high school graduate has learned no more than the average white or Asian eighth-grader. But the law treats these disparities as evidence of racial discrimination. Many employers, therefore, seek to avoid liability by giving racial preferences to minorities, and they will continue to do so unless and until the Supreme Court modifies, or clarifies, the law. Racial politics clearly did figure in the city's denial of promotions to the white and Hispanic firefighters. Politically powerful African-American leaders made it clear that if not enough blacks were eligible for promotion, then no whites should be promoted either. One was the Rev. Boise Kimber, who disrupted meetings of the city's civil service board and warned its members of a "political ramification" if they certified the exam results. Kimber was a key vote-getter for Mayor DeStefano, who had made the minister chairman of New Haven's Board of Fire Commissioners despite his 1996 felony convictions (reported by the New Haven Register) for perjury and stealing money from an elderly woman's burial fund. The city's other reasons for wanting to give more promotions to minority firefighters -- diversifying the upper ranks, and providing role models for younger black and Hispanic firefighters -- are entirely laudable. But at what cost to those who work hard and play by the rules only to be turned aside for being the wrong color? "Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race," Obama said in his much-acclaimed March 18 speech about race. "So when they ... hear that an African-American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed ... resentment builds over time." So it does. But based on Obama's record and the views of the civil-rights specialists on his transition team, there is every reason to worry that he will appoint civil-rights enforcers, judges, and justices bent on perpetuating the race-based discrimination against whites (and Asians) in many walks of life that is exemplified by the New Haven firefighter case. I suspect that deep down, Obama would appreciate the simple injustice of the New Haven firefighter case. It would be most interesting to find out.

Buffalo NY--This past week in court Judge John Curtin threw out the case M.O.C.H.A (men of color helping all) VS Buffalo, the lawsuit claimed that the testing process was biased,through testimony of several professional test writing individuals who are involved with writing tests for NYS civil service the judge threw it out because of the fact that it was proven in court that the testing was fair! This applys to all of us in NYS.

Read This: For Immediate Release: Media Contact Cheryl Williams (904) 554-6422 Cheryl_Williams777@yahoo.com Supreme Court Decision on Firefighters Could Reverse Civil Rights Act and Put Nation In a Security Crisis Jacksonville, Fla., March 1, 2009 – The International Association of Professional Black Firefighter (IABPFF) has taken issue with a lawsuit currently pending in the United State Supreme Court, Ricci vs. De Stefano, and will be filing an amicus brief, joined by several other prominent organizations and individuals, representing minority firefighters being attacked by the suit. At the core of this issue is keeping our firefighting forces diverse in the interests of National Security. The IABPFF position is clear: keep Title VII and Constitutional Protections alive for professional black firefighters/ first responders -- not merely for the interests of Caucasians, who have dominated the fire testing process for years. The “ reverse-discrimination” lawsuit was brought by 20 white firefighters (known as the” New Haven 20”). The white firefighters alleges that they were discriminated against in denial of promotion, and complained that the City violated the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution by creating “racial categories” favoring African Americans on two promotional examinations. (Fire Lieutenant and Captain). The city had chosen (after holding four civil service public hearings) not to certify both exams because the results were slanted highly in favor of promotion of whites and the city believed any promotions would violate Title VII’s prohibition against disparate impact discrimination. The outcome of the lower court decision is as follows. Both lower courts sided with the city and found there was no “discrimination.” But, the Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case, likely for the purpose of making a sweeping pronouncement. There are key issues that are at stake. Firstly, the Supreme Court ruling could potently turn back the clock on civil rights movements, decreasing minority integration around 40 years. Ricci vs. DeStefano, contains the issue of skin-deep diversity, brought about by the lawsuit challenging the fairness of a standardized test result, concerning promotions of firefighters in New Haven, CT. This case could possibly have a strong if not debilitating impact on municipal fire testing and the limits of city control over examinations, as well as possibly shoring up “reverse-discrimination” suits, using Title VII and the Fourteenth Amendment to further the interests of white firefighters at the expense of minorities and women. It is important to bear in mind that protecting diversity in municipal firefighting forces is truly a matter of National Security and compelling state interest. The white firefighters want the Court to hold that any race-based remedies for African-American workers, particularly fire and police, are swept out of existence. This includes settlements, consent decrees, and possibly entire right of action under Title VII or the U.S. Constitution. Because of the increasing influx of “reverse discrimination” complaints and expiration of many hiring and promotional consent decrees, fewer African-Americans are represented in city fire departments around the country, particularly at the command level. Moreover, many of those at command level – who fought so hard to get there – will soon be retiring, restoring fire departments, composition as largely Caucasian. This depletion in the number of diverse first responders (approximately 70%) is clearly not in the best interest of American security; this is borne out by the U.S. military’s heavy reliance on diversity at both lower and command ranks. As “paramilitary” organizations, similarly structured, municipal fire and rescue departments are truly first responders in national emergencies. The position of the IABPFF is stated simply Addington Stewart, Director of IABPFF/SCR: “The Supreme Court hearing his case is the greatest threat to the future Blacks in the Fire Service and is the greatest challenge blacks have ever faced in the Fire Service. Should and if the high court reverse the decision, it will have monumental effect on Blacks being fire fighters and Blacks being officers in their respective cities. Should and if this is allowed to happen, then cities across the country will not have to justify whether a test is valid, discriminatory or whether it has a disparate or adverse impact on blacks as firefighters and first responders.” The focus of IABPFF is to protect their the Title VII and Constitutional rights of all firefighters and officers, especially those of Blacks, other minorities, and women, who have historically been shut out of firefighting command positions. It also impacts the integrity of and the integrity of municipal fire testing itself. This is not a” touchy-feely diversity issue.” Black Firefighters are Emergency First Responders, and keeping diversity in all ranks is a compelling state interest to our National Security.

From watching news 12-Law and Order should be filming in MV!