aviator70

One word, NOPE!

A plane can crash anywhere, anytime, even if a plane never goes over your jurisdiction. I am not sure anybody can ever be fully prepared, buy any and all preparation can help. I work in Emergency Services and Aviation. One important thing that all departments should be familiar with is the requirements set forth by the FAA ans NTSB in regards to handling accident scenes. NTSB 830 is a good place to start. There are laws and rules, especially that the wreckage can not be disturbed anymore then needed to save life and property. Years ago I saw Emergency Services workers rummaging through wreckage and moving wreckage to get a better "view"

Agreed.

Because Westchester does everything backward and changes only after everybody else changes. County PD just went Plain English, FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Westchester always has to be different.

You are correct. The FAA knows nothing about putting a plan together like this. It is not their business. In reality, the FAA only cares about what happens on the airfield with planning. I am familiar with the plan, but not who and how it was developed. It may be overkill in cases with small aircraft like this. I would not personally be willing to make that call or claim though as I am not familar with its development.

Nice trucks, much better then what we had when I was there. That is awesome you can meet the Index with 1 truck. We had to roll 2, and had a "backup" (LOL!) if needed.

Cessna 210 holds 28 gallons of gas???? Wrong. More like between 60 and 70 gallons. Bottom line is the County Airport has a plan in place, approved by the FAA, and the plan was put into place as seen fit by the county, right, wrong, no matter what it was. Sadly, 4 people lost their lives, including 2 young girls. Hopefully as soon as the units realized they were not needed, sadly, they departed back to their respectful districts and did not "stick" around for the sake of "sticking: around or "taking a look". One thing that many need to realize is that the airport response is set and agreed upon with the FAA. They do not do it like others in the emergency services do. It may not be relevant in this case as it is off airport.

Do the response time requirements still exist? When I was there, it was 3 minutes for the first truck and 4 minutes for the 2nd truck.

You are correct, if they had 3 manned pieces and can meet the time requirements. They always had 2 (and a very old spare that never worked) Also, is that 3rd piece manned? I believe not, and it in the maintenance area, and can they apparatus respond within the 3 and 4 minute requirements? Maybe, maybe not, and yes, they operate as a brigade. While the equipment is top notch, is has limitations as does the fire brigade.

I too worked for Airport Ops many years ago and drove the ARFF trucks. Once those ARFF truicks leave the property, the airport is closed to certain types of operations as air carrier ops require ARFF at the field. They need to get them back in service ASAP to get the airport open again.

I live in the area also, and I have heard MANY complaints. I guess it depends on who you talk to and where you live. I can tell you that in fact they do self-dispatch, when they are sitting in Kiryas Joel and listening to a police scanner and hear a call 20 miles away, and then they call dispatch to say they are enroute without being asked to respond, that is self-dispatching. And I also know of several localities that are not happy when they ride up onto their scene uninvited or requested.

They break the law all the time! I see them hauling butt lights and siren up and down the thruway and 17 everyday, most likely on transports, and I still have no idea who and what gives them the right to self-dispatch to calls out of their jurisdiction, sometimes WAY out of their jurisdiction. And yes, they have a State Police Liason, which is crazy within itself, and yes, they will walk pretty much unscathed, as usual.

Austin, TX is ranked one of the best places to live in the USA.

Seth made a good decicsion, hopefully I will not too be too many years behind him. I look what my friends have in NC, SC and Texas, and what I have, it is sickening what I pay for the same things versus what they pay.

I find it hard to believe that Yonkers residents pay an additional tax to live in Yonkers and they can not make ends meet. Something not right here.

As a pilot, I also questioned this. Is it normal, probably not, but there could have been several issues including airport closures, etc....White Plains was open much sooner than most. That aircraft is more then capable, and required to, fly on 1 engine. Is it prudent when you lose 1 to continue on that far, maybe yes, maybe no, depending on a variety of factors.

Code 3 Collectibles on line. There used to be a place in Valhalla called Westchester Collectibles, not sure if they are still there. They used to have lots of neat things.

I know, I did not say what I meant clearly, my fault. Sorry. I was trying to say something but could not find a way to get across what I wanted to say easily and clearly, and w/o writing a book. My apologies for jumping down you throat. Poor wording on my part.

I did not mean every auto accident literally! Come on now, lets have common sense prevail here. If it is an obvious fender bender, then of course I would not think the FD would respond. Dispatchers can get a good sense of the situation in the phone calls and number of phone calls. But if there is doubt, send them.

They should roll to all auto accidents. The taxpayers pay for the service, and are entitled to it, and until it is known for fact they are not needed, they should be on the way, I think the post above is very well put on how they are dispatched, using various levels of seriousness to tone out what kind of response it should be. Would you want your loved one to die because the FD did not roll because somebody who may have no professional knowledge or expertise or who did not report that there was an injury involved and there was a delay in the response???? Yes, there is risk, there is risk in everything we all do, you can help reduce risk, but never eliminate it. I also understand the money and manpowe issues, and certainly sympathize with all, but, this is what some of us volunteer or are paid to do.

Billing non-residence is BS too! Think about how stupid this is. The only way to make it fair would be that everybody gets billed for these services everywhere. So if a resident ot Town X needs help in Westport and gets a bill, then the person from Westport who needs help where the resdent from Town X lives, and Town X does not bill, then the Westport resident should get services free???? Want it to be fair, you bill our residents, we bill yours. This is just out of control BS. Here is another thing to think about, it costs money to collect this money. Did the rocket scientists Bloomberg see if it wil cost more to collect then they will collect???? Crazy! We are being lead down a road of failure and this country is falling apart at its seams. This isnot what the founding fathers wanted for this country.

Sure is BS! Lets see how many others follow. Taxes are collected to pay for these services. Thsi is just another money grab by goverment to fill the financial void created by them. I agree, where and when does it end? Next comes a surcharge then a surcharge on a surcharge. Out of control. An dBloomberg, lets all hope and pray he never runs or gets elected as President!

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No need for apologies Seth.

I drove through here about 20 minutes before from Westchester to Chester in Orange Couinty. Lots of traffic heading East towards Westchester, apple and pumpkin pickers and leave watchers.